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原帖由 wlx9897 于 2017-12-21 16:40 发表
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求大大方方承认链接

54楼已经说了
JT表示这个片段只是一个gameplay演示
几天后时任SCE欧洲VP Phil Harrison在接受采访时表示
发布会上所有的技术演示都是实时演算的
所有的游戏演示都不是实时演算的，都是视频——按照PS3规格所制作的视频。
"GamesIndustry.biz: One question on the lips of many people at the moment: how much of what we saw in the PlayStation 3 demos was actually running in real-time?

Phil Harrison: Everything in the demos was real-time.

And what about the game footage clips?

Not all of that - in fact, none of it was real-time because it was all running off video. If you make a presentation to two and a half thousand people, you're going to put some of it on video just to be on the safe side.

I've been asked this question a lot. The way we put those videos together, everything was done to specification. Everything was done to PS3 spec. Virtually everything used in-game assets; some things were rendered."
链接==========>>>>>>http://www.gamesindustry.biz/art ... talks-playstation-3

还有问题吗？

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你坛索索也是牛逼，张口闭口人身攻击

Real gameplay是指什么还需要牛津字典？傻逼也知道说的是实机演示。那段视频到底是不是实机演示自己心里没点B数？另外SCEA VP也是可怜，水平还不如你坛索索，听个问题还听不懂不清楚表达不清，真应该让位给你坛索索当。

(About the Killzone trailer)

INT: "Is there some stuff in there that's just smoke and mirrors?"

JT: "It's definitely real. I guess we're pretty good at keeping secrets because the dev kits were out there. The dev kits were very intuitive so people did some incredible things, and that's one thing Ken wanted to make sure everyone understood. That is real gameplay everybody's seeing out there. And I think another advantage is..." (gets cut off by the interviewer)

I: "So that's real gameplay? All of that stuff is playable?"

JT: "It is gameplay..."
喷了,就这都还能洗,还说是IGN问得不清楚,GK真是小强啊;

后来被质疑太多,PSM访谈就开始推行5帧论,说是虽然只有5帧但是在alpha机型跑的然后拉到60帧做展示;
"None of the game footage was taken from software running on systems using the final PS3 graphics chip, the Reality Synthesizer (RSX). ... The most stunning demo, Killzone PS3, was from an actual game engine running on an alpha kit--at less than five frames per second. The footage was sped up to 60fps in post-production."
然后真机比alpha版还快25%,估计能到6帧了 :
https://www.gamespot.com/article ... -demo/1100-6128031/

当时随处可见热火朝天在论坛讨论的real time 5帧论:
https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=371985
http://www.shacknews.com/article/38046/psm-on-ps3
http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php?t-264267.html
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3510
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ps3-power.1661200/

然后现在就CG了,也是,过了这么多年那点脸都无所谓了,只是没想到GK还想给舔干净,而已

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原帖由 @讴歌123  于 2017-12-21 18:57 发表
你坛索索也是牛逼，张口闭口人身攻击

Real gameplay是指什么还需要牛津字典？傻逼也知道说的是实机演示。那段视频到底是不是实机演示自己心里没点B数？另外SCEA VP也是可怜，水平还不如你坛索索，听个问题还听不懂不清楚表达不清，真应该让位给你坛索索当。

哪有泥潭喷子牛逼
牛津词典
官方财报
都没你们牛逼

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没买x汪的软饭，那年头说白了支持360也是看在360有盗版。

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原帖由 迷雾惊魂 于 2017-12-21 20:10 发表
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没买x汪的软饭，那年头说白了支持360也是看在360有盗版。

你说的和主题有关系吗？

还有之前吹双1080P输出 120FPS麻烦也给洗洗
Appearing at the Tokyo International Digital Conference on Thursday to talk about the technological capabilities of the PlayStation 3 and the Cell processor, Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi said he expects the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps, according to a report in The Nikkei BP.
https://www.gamespot.com/article ... 0-fps/1100-6136786/

"Ken Kutaragi announced that the 20GB version of PlayStation 3 will come with one HDMI port, and the 60GB version will have two HDMI ports for super letterbox display on side-by-side HDTVs."

double the HDMI, twice the fun,嘿嘿,估计GK都不记得这口号了

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原帖由 @tommyshy  于 2017-12-21 20:25 发表
你说的和主题有关系吗？

前几楼不是有人怀旧软饭群体吗，为什么这个群体消失了，这就是原因啊，当年支持360就是因为360有d，你们看现在xone劣势加没d有几个支持，当年ps3索尼劣势加没d版怎么没见索饭群体消失呢。所以过了这些年在回顾这些事就能看出问题了。不过我是觉得玩正玩d都无所谓，支持那家都是自己的事，当初那些来论坛战的只是图个好玩而已。

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所谓gameplay，其实是比real time更加严格的存在，因为部分cut scene也是real time渲染的，但因为无法操作所以不能被列为gameplay部分。

既然是gameplay视频，好歹是playable吧，尼玛顶楼描述视频也配叫gameplay？

时隔十二年的老片再翻出来集体潮吹？软饭团体堕落到这种地步了……真是可悲。

时隔12年，Guerrilla自己出来《杀戮地带2》预告并不是实机画面，而是CG，这都能算到软饭的身上？

不是眼睛是瞎的的就是脑筋有问题吧

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原帖由 阿弄 于 2017-12-21 19:35 发表
(About the Killzone trailer)

INT: "Is there some stuff in there that's just smoke and mirrors?"

JT: "It's definitely real. I guess we're pretty good at keeping secrets because the dev kits wer ...

强行定义gameplay喷了

难不成5帧也被喷子定义成即时演算？

吃相别太难看


[ 本帖最后由 I-Am-Legend 于 2017-12-21 23:08 编辑 ]

还在战啊……

光盯着杀戮2狂喷了十几年，能不能想想其他两家比起杀戮2五十步笑百步的宣传演示？

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原帖由 GDwest 于 2017-12-21 22:53 发表
时隔12年，Guerrilla自己出来《杀戮地带2》预告并不是实机画面，而是CG，这都能算到软饭的身上？

不是眼睛是瞎的的就是脑筋有问题吧

我一进来就看到一堆软饭在潮吹。还抵赖？我看你是自己吹到眼睛发黑脑抽筋了吧。哈哈哈

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ps3初期的sony是有点扭曲，当年看这cg视频就没觉得能是真机演示，比起这个sony那个浴缸里倒鸭子的演示其实欺骗性更强，至少kz2成品画面确实惊艳，cg里宣传的场面气氛也八九不离十了，kz2实打实的是个好游戏，可惜晚了两年，这是第一款让我觉得为了画面30帧我就忍了的游戏