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索尼宣布:2006年PS3北美出货(ship)达到100万

01/09/2007 09:19:49 AM
Video game console sales ended slump over holidays
[International Herald Tribune]

Published Date: January 9, 2007
Page: 10
Section: Finance
Author: By Matt Richtel
Dateline: NEW YORK:

The most widely watched report on holiday video game sales is not due until Thursday, but early hints suggest that it could hold a few surprises.

Sony said Sunday that between the debut of the PlayStation 3 in late November and the end of the year it had shipped one million of the consoles to retailers in the United States. It said it still expected to ship six million consoles worldwide by the end of March.
The six million figure, in particular, surprised industry analysts, who have said that Sony faces challenges in manufacturing enough consoles. They have also questioned whether the price of the PlayStation 3 ?$600 for the high-end version ?would scare off mainstream consumers. Analysts had expected Sony to ship four million to five million consoles.

''It sounds like they really are ramping up production,'' said Paul-Jon McNealy, an analyst with American Technology Research.

''They've gotten their feet underneath them.''

For its part, Microsoft, which introduced its Xbox 360 in November 2005, said Sunday that by year's end it had shipped 10.4 million of the consoles worldwide. That is 400,000 more than Microsoft had estimated it would ship over the last year.

Microsoft also said that over the holidays it had sold 2.7 million copies of Gears of War, making the game the first hit for the new generation of consoles, which also includes the Nintendo Wii.

The announcements, which were made at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, provide a look at the early stages of what is destined to be a multiyear battle among Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo, whose latest console has won over many new fans.

Nintendo, which introduced the Wii in November, declined to disclose how many consoles it had shipped. It said earlier that it expected to ship four million by year's end, with roughly half of those to the United States.

It will take time for any one company to dominate the market, but Sony was quick to toot its own horn about its sales performance during the holiday season.

''You can declare us a winner right now,'' Peter Dille, senior vice president for marketing at Sony Computer Entertainment America, said in an interview. He said he was basing his declaration on the performance not just of the PlayStation 3 but on continued sales of software for the older PlayStation 2. 索尼说

David Hufford, director of Xbox product management at Microsoft, countered: ''That sounds like spin. PlayStation 3 stumbled out of the blocks.'' 反击

Of course, the number of consoles shipped could be considerably higher than the number actually sold, which is why a report expected Thursday from the NPD Group, a research firm, detailing figures for December retail sales of the consoles and their games will be closely watched. The industry and investors are hoping to see not only which console maker is leading but also whether the game business as a whole has emerged from a slump.


The industry had another early indicator last Thursday, when GameStop, a video game retail chain, said that its sales for the nine weeks ended Dec. 30 were up 23 percent over the same period a year earlier.

''Clearly, it was a very strong holiday in the video game sector,'' said Colin Sebastian, an analyst with Lazard Capital Markets.

But Sebastian said that he saw challenges ahead for Sony as well as for Microsoft, which sells the high-end configuration of the Xbox 360 for $399. ''I would expect there will be a price cut for the 360 and the PS3,'' he said, referring to the PlayStation 3.

Dille, of Sony, countered that the company was selling out all of the PlayStation consoles that it could supply, price notwithstanding.

''We never saw any resistance to the price point,'' he said. ''We get beat up on price, and the very next question is: 'How come you can't ship enough?' Something's got to give.'' 索尼又说

But that equation might be changing. Daniel DeMatteo, vice chairman and chief operating officer at GameStop, said Thursday that for the first time last week there were PlayStation 3 consoles in stock at hundreds of the company's 3,700 outlets. Not so for the Wii, which costs just $249 and is still flying off shelves.反击
''We got some in yesterday in really limited supply, and they virtually disappeared,'' DeMatteo said.



Copyright ?2007 the International Herald Tribune. All Rights Reserved.


其实看多了业界新闻也挺烦得,现在都形成一种模式了,索尼先出来吹,其他人再反击。。。。

索尼出货数的笑话,也不是美国人全被骗哈,不信你自己看上面

[ 本帖最后由 萝卜 于 2007-1-9 22:46 编辑 ]


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2004年5月
SCEA在E3 2004展前发表会上宣布截止3月底PS2主机全世界累计“ship”7130万。
日本SCE官网报道截止2004年3月31日PS2全世界累计“生产出荷”7130万。
SONY集团财务报表上截止2004年3月31日PS2全世界累计“生产出荷”7130万。

2005年5月
SCEA在E3 2005展前发表会上宣布截止3月底PS2主机全世界累计“ship”8747万,PSP主机全世界累计“ship”297万。
日本SCE官网报道截止2005年3月31日PS2全世界累计“生产出荷”8747万,PSP主机全世界累计“生产出荷”297万。
SONY集团财务报表上截止2005年3月31日PS2全世界累计“生产出荷”8747万,PSP主机全世界累计“生产出荷”297万。

2006年5月
SCEA在E3 2006展前发表会上宣布截止3月底PS2主机全世界累计“ship”1亿369万,突破1亿大关,PSP主机全世界累计“ship”1703万。
日本SCE官网报道截止2006年3月31日PS2全世界累计“生产出荷”1亿369万,PSP主机全世界累计“生产出荷”1703万。
SONY集团财务报表上截止2006年3月31日PS2全世界累计“生产出荷”1亿369万,PSP主机全世界累计“生产出荷”1703万。

参考:
日本SCEハードウェア累計生産出荷台数経緯、ソフトウェア累計生産出荷本数:
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/index.html

日本SONY集团業績、決算短信プレゼンテーション資料(PDF报表):
http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html

E3 2005 SONY展前发表会全视频:
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/vi ... id=6125124&pid=

E3 2006 SONY展前发表会全视频:
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/vi ... ;rgroup=e32006_live

其他欧洲各大游戏展会或者每次主机产量达到有纪念意义的整数时的发表都是如此,日本用“生产出荷”,欧美用ship甚至用sale,可以自己到欧美游戏媒体查找,我累了,贴了也白贴,我认为楼上的诸位根本不会去了解真实的情况,否则这种无聊的月经战不会每隔一阵子就泛滥一次。



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老师,我们不要一起出来嘛。。。。


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光缆一断不用代理牛慢,刚找完网址贴出来。

不过估计是没用的,没见上一页不了解相关知识就一桶桶粪水向我泼来吗。。。而且这些人泼完了发觉自己泼的没理的话会继续换更大的桶来,而不是承认,RP啊。。

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咦?既然这个生产出荷这么好用,sony都用了十几年,为什么ms和n不用呢?想不通哪。

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去问SONY违背业界规则创造这个专用名词的用意去吧。。。

不恰当比喻下,你这个诡辩术很容易拆穿:
既然做坏事(一切不好的东西)那么容易,为什么别人不做呢?想不通?
想通了吧,你这种手法太不高明了。

[ 本帖最后由 JZF 于 2007-1-9 23:06 编辑 ]

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我不是要诡辩什么。我认为您说的都很有道理,学到不少知识。

可是,如果ms和n都学着用生产出荷,或者经常性的揭露sony,会有什么害处么?现在是拿自己的批发数量和sony的生产数量比,心里能舒服么?

如您所说,大部分人都被sony骗了,我认为,如果商业上能获得利益,不如跟着sony学一学。毕竟sony已经这么做了十几年,业界不是也没什么反应,不是也认同了么?

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任天堂和MS当然不舒服,就象我前面帖子中提到的如果再去看一遍北美任天堂的社长在E3 2006发表会上的发言,用一字一顿的口气强调DS的真正出货比PSP多很多,为什么他要强调,特别为什么要专门强调real这个词,我想SONY的生产出荷这个词以及在欧美的乱用ship代替造成的影响有多大可见一斑。
绝大多数消费者(对于游戏界来说就是玩家)不可能去专门研究业界,不可能对游戏业界的诸多方面都非常熟知,因此他们听信的只是厂商和媒体的宣传。
打个不恰当比喻,就象在正规媒体打的含有虚内容的广告,就象之前很多中国亏损企业做的赢利年报,绝大多数的人都是相信的,这就是宣传的力量。但是这样很好用,是不是就应该这样学呢?心中应该清楚。

另外来说,是不是SONY这种手段就是违法的,也并不是,经过不断的努力,通过在财报中加注解等手段,虽然用了这个不符合常规的词但也不违反经济法。熟知SONY这个手段的人只能说这个词生拼硬造带有欺骗性而已罢了。。

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原帖由 JZF 于 2007-1-8 23:40 发表


就别谈UMD影碟了,当年在讨论UMD影碟的帖子里我贴了下UMD影碟的销量,B神穷追不舍展开疯狂攻击说我偏题的景象历历在目。
嗯,继续造谣

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一看到还有人相信sony的出货我就浑身难受,寝食难安,一想起广大欧美群众还在受sony的骗,我就吃不下睡不着,如此伤天害理灭绝人性的暴行,比之南京大屠杀和奥斯维辛集中营种族灭绝更有过之而无不及,使我无比义愤填膺,在良知的驱使下,我日复一日年复一年游荡于各游戏bbs揭露sony,要做到年年讲月月讲日日讲,以便拯救那些还处在水深火热中的全世界人民,誓要将这神圣伟大的事业进行到底。
我怀着强烈的使命感详细检查每一个关于sony出货的帖子,我绝不能容忍有任何一个人透露岀哪怕一丝一毫的表示相信sony出货的意思,只要看到有任何一个人回帖说“卖得还不错嘛”,我就要苦大仇深的出来揭露,循循善诱,务必说服别人和我一起骂sony。我的目的?很简单,我就是希望看到广大觉醒的群众都出来骂sony,见一次骂一次,都踩上一只脚,这样我就满足了,就有快感了,我的一切努力就都没有白费。最后说明一下,我是sega饭。

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原帖由 gg321 于 2007-1-9 22:57 发表
咦?既然这个生产出荷这么好用,sony都用了十几年,为什么ms和n不用呢?想不通哪。
问题的关键是,你怎么知道MS和N没用???
比如现在的中国媒体,本来只有5W的发行量,就一定要吹嘘自己有20万,4倍啊同志们。关键是人人都吹,家家都吹(非盈利的,包发行的估计要少吹一点,不过吹是一定的)。这已经是业界的潜规则了,人人都习以为常。

我不相信MS和N就不用这个方式。。。。

几十年前大家都亩产万斤呢,你信不信?你只信山西的万斤是真的,四川的就是假的?

[ 本帖最后由 sxyzero 于 2007-1-10 02:44 编辑 ]

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骗人就是骗人!不过狂热的什么都当看不到吧!
不过吹牛都吹赢不了的话,洗洗睡吧!

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原帖由 张国志老师 于 2007-1-10 02:25 发表
一看到还有人相信sony的出货我就浑身难受,寝食难安,一想起广大欧美群众还在受sony的骗,我就吃不下睡不着,如此伤天害理灭绝人性的暴行,比之南京大屠杀和奥斯维辛集中营种族灭绝更有过之而无不及,使我无比义 ...
看到了没?这群人的嘴脸就是如此。
不愿去看放在眼前的事实,而就是无尽的人身攻击。
我在前面说的话一点没错:“不过估计是没用的,没见上一页不了解相关知识就一桶桶粪水向我泼来吗。。。而且这些人泼完了发觉自己泼的没理的话会继续换更大的桶来,而不是承认,RP啊。。”
TG被这群人长期占据也真是悲哀啊。。。

[ 本帖最后由 JZF 于 2007-1-10 08:06 编辑 ]

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有关出来解释的那个Peter Dille什么人物,有兴趣的自己看看我上面贴那篇文章。。。

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原帖由 sxyzero 于 2007-1-10 02:40 发表

问题的关键是,你怎么知道MS和N没用???
比如现在的中国媒体,本来只有5W的发行量,就一定要吹嘘自己有20万,4倍啊同志们。关键是人人都吹,家家都吹(非盈利的,包发行的估计要少吹一点,不过 ...
小兄弟,如果你与B神一样,就当我在下面说的话是放P好了。

为什么业界都用出荷数来进行宣传,这是与业绩评价等一贯做法都息息相关。
在年度或季度的业绩报表中,游戏厂商为了描述自己的营业额,主机商会把游戏硬件的出荷数、软件商会把游戏软件的出荷数罗列出来,为什么要列这个数据,因为这个数据是厂商把产品发货至商品流通领域得到营业额的数据,因此在报表中用“贩卖数”来描述,股东看到这个数字就能明确的知道有多少商品销售出去了获得了收益,这个数据当然具有相当的准确度。
而生产出荷数呢,SONY集团的业绩报表中把自己的生产出荷数罗列出来,下面注解这是生产数,因此你也不能说他在报表中犯错,但是这个数据根本无法体现究竟生产出的那么多商品中有多少是销售了出去获得营业额的,这个模糊的数据无法让人了解详细。你真说他吹了多少,也没有证据,但明明可以按照常规公布出荷数为什么非要公布生产数而且还要美化为生产出荷数,SONY的用意只有SONY知道。

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