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[其他] 为什么大家会觉得APU弱呢??

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原帖由 allensakura 于 2013-1-27 13:51 发表

32MB ESRAM跟32MB快閃儲存是天與地的存在..........
WiiU跟X360一样都是用eDRAM,只是WiiU用gDDR3而X360用GDDR3,
WiiU的频宽少了一半,跨平台的游戏不修改直接上,表现会很差。

WiiU最新公布的XB,画面不就很漂亮。


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原帖由 sisik 于 2013-1-27 14:18 发表


WiiU跟X360一样都是用eDRAM,只是WiiU用gDDR3而X360用GDDR3,
WiiU的频宽少了一半,跨平台的游戏不修改直接上,表现会很差。

WiiU最新公布的XB,画面不就很漂亮。
嗯,但eSRAM和eDRAM的確有很大分別就是



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原帖由 2006arg 于 2013-1-27 13:37 发表
目前看至少BD,UBI业内,还有国外爆的规格都看不出720的性能是怪兽级别,之前报料的阿杜又否认了384bit,只能说这次sony保密做的太好了,目前为止毫无消息,不管是玩法还是机能。个人还是希望720大门多堆些钱,最起码 ...
BD说了什么720规格?为什么到能你嘴上就爆了规格?


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原帖由 你老闆 于 2013-1-27 14:17 发表

我明明說的是..."配一個SATA 2的硬盤而不是只支援SATA 2"
能支援SATA3却用SATA2硬盘,微软这么做用意何在?
为了成本舍弃速度?
我是觉得毫无道理

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原帖由 wk6833795 于 2013-1-27 12:50 发表
在没有一个明确数据的情况下,我们在这里猜简直是盲人摸象。
有数据才叫盲人摸象,现在充其量是盲人自摸~~

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原帖由 west2046 于 2013-1-27 14:20 发表

BD说了什么720规格?为什么到能你嘴上就爆了规格?
他唯一承认的就是X720的GPU不是384bit
超过384现在看来不可能了
估计只有256bit了。。。

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原帖由 Eric_Ma 于 2013-1-27 14:22 发表


有数据才叫盲人摸象,现在充其量是盲人自摸~~
一开始就高潮,尼玛现在早泄了。。。

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实在没新闻。。。就榨一些吧:
(09:27:01) Source:: That said, I'll bet some of you guys have been able to figure out what's tue and what's not..
(09:27:52) miDnIghtEr20C: a little
(09:27:56) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm guessing the 8 gigs
(09:28:07) Source:: Yep.
(09:28:13) miDnIghtEr20C: and actually, i'd have to open another page to see the other rumors. lol
(09:28:17) miDnIghtEr20C: can't remember off the top
(09:28:21) Source:: Hahaha...
(09:28:36) miDnIghtEr20C: not much has leaked on the controller!
(09:28:45) miDnIghtEr20C: ha ha! i feel as only i know!
(09:28:47) Source:: Yep.
(09:28:55) miDnIghtEr20C: discrete screen! rumble on triggers if still going on
(09:28:57) miDnIghtEr20C: great!
(09:29:11) miDnIghtEr20C: you see the rumor of ps3 being stronger than new xbox?
(09:29:14) miDnIghtEr20C: uh oh!
(09:29:25) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm guessing the core thing is correct as well
(09:30:24) miDnIghtEr20C: here was an ign list...
(09:30:25) miDnIghtEr20C: 1. State of Decay and LocoCycle will be the stars of this year’s Summer of Arcade.
2. Shadow Complex 2 will finally be announced…as an Xbox Live Arcade launch title on the next-generation Xbox.
3. Said next-generation Xbox will be publicly announced at a special event one month or less prior to E3 in June. It will be broadcast live on Xbox Live and the Internet.
4. Microsoft will take a page from the Apple playbook and officially call the next-gen Xbox simply “Xbox.” Not Xbox 720, not Xbox Infinity, not anything else. We’ll casually refer to it as “The New Xbox” for a while until it’s not new anymore.
5. The New Xbox (see, we’re doing it already!) will cost $400 in its most popular/gamer-friendly configuration. Not a penny more. A basic, smaller-storage version will run you $350.
6. The New Xbox will be released in November and kick serious ass on both the tech bench and at retail store registers.
7. Bungie’s new game Destiny will be the headliner at Microsoft’s E3 press conference and be the flagship title for T
(09:30:53) Source:: Yeah, we actually have a fair amount of research on the next Playtation, and it likely will be a bit more powerful in raw specs...but the question is how efficient will it be... and we're predicting that there won't be a huge delta in perf, but Sony will probably have a technical edge.
(09:31:11) miDnIghtEr20C: and another from vgrumors... which btw, is a side sister site of here.
(09:31:13) miDnIghtEr20C: CPU:

- x64 Architecture

- 8 CPU cores running at 1.6 gigahertz (GHz)

- each CPU thread has its own 32 KB L1 instruction cache and 32 KB L1 data cache

- each module of four CPU cores has a 2 MB L2 cache resulting in a total of 4 MB of L2 cache

- each core has one fully independent hardware thread with no shared execution resources

- each hardware thread can issue two instructions per clock

GPU:

- custom D3D11.1 class 800-MHz graphics processor

- 12 shader cores providing a total of 768 threads

- each thread can perform one scalar multiplication and addition operation (MADD) per clock cycle

- at peak performance, the GPU can effectively issue 1.2 trillion floating-point operations per second

High-fidelity Natural User Interface (NUI) sensor is always present

Storage and Memory:

- 8 gigabyte (GB) of RAM DDR3 (68 GB/s)

- 32 MB of fast embedded SRAM (ESRAM) (102 GB/s)

- from the GPU's perspective the bandwidths of system memory and ESRAM are parallel providing combined peak bandwidth of 170 GB/sec.

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(09:31:33) miDnIghtEr20C: i think Sony is rushing this time around
(09:31:45) miDnIghtEr20C: they were supposed to have such a strong 10 year plan.
(09:32:11) Source:: yeah, those specs are pretty much accurate.
(09:32:31) miDnIghtEr20C: those damn guys that bought the durango cpu!
(09:32:41) miDnIghtEr20C: some of guys on hdd say they won't buy unless it's bc
(09:32:47) miDnIghtEr20C: hope it's bc a bit!!
(09:33:46) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm getting so excited for the start
(09:33:46) Source:: Something they don'tmention, though, is the new box will have TWO scaler chips... and what's cool about that is the UI can always be 1080p, while in-gamerendering resolutions can scaled to increase perf as needed... two dynamic resolution planes.It's nifty.
(09:34:29) Source:: It'll defintely be BC... definitely. But, will every game work? Probably not...
(09:34:31) miDnIghtEr20C: nice
(09:34:42) miDnIghtEr20C: OH SHIT!
(09:34:45) miDnIghtEr20C: thanks for that tidbit!
(09:34:48) miDnIghtEr20C: that's awesome
(09:35:04) miDnIghtEr20C: that info (from my source, hidden as always) is very nice!
(09:35:16) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm trying to get into e3
(09:35:22) Source:: Nice!
(09:35:28) miDnIghtEr20C: but 750 is fucking expensive!
(09:35:45) Source:: Yeah.... it is...
(09:36:03) Source:: Hey, sorry I never got you those codes... I just got really busy.
(09:36:12) Source:: I didn't forget, though.
(09:36:21) miDnIghtEr20C: no worries
(09:36:25) miDnIghtEr20C: i was just bustin your balls
(09:36:35) miDnIghtEr20C: i know you haven't forgotten about us
(09:36:44) miDnIghtEr20C: your small followers!
(09:36:46) miDnIghtEr20C: ha
(09:36:55) Source:: Hahahaha...
(09:37:04) miDnIghtEr20C: how's perfect dark looking? still launch ready?
(09:38:26) miDnIghtEr20C: kinect sports 3 maybe
(09:38:40) Source:: I kno that Rare's other title is heavily invested in water simulation...it's pretty amazing to see what they've done.
(09:38:41) miDnIghtEr20C: how's the controller looking? you guys going touch screen? or just regular
(09:38:48) miDnIghtEr20C: i love water games
(09:38:56) miDnIghtEr20C: wish hydro thunder was a full game
(09:38:58) miDnIghtEr20C: lol
(09:39:32) miDnIghtEr20C: LOVED that game
(09:39:41) miDnIghtEr20C: if it's like that... then you just gave me a morning boner
(09:39:44) Source:: Then I think you'll like what's coming from Rare...
(09:39:59) miDnIghtEr20C: i just post about that game about 3 weeks ago, saying i wish nintendo would make a next gen waverace
(09:40:06) miDnIghtEr20C: awesome B)
(09:41:47) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm looking forward to it all man
(09:42:03) Source:: Me too... I cn't wait for us to announce!!

http://showtimeforfree.com/index.php?topic=5635.msg73194#msg73194

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原帖由 sisik 于 2013-1-27 14:18 发表


WiiU跟X360一样都是用eDRAM,只是WiiU用gDDR3而X360用GDDR3,
WiiU的频宽少了一半,跨平台的游戏不修改直接上,表现会很差。

WiiU最新公布的XB,画面不就很漂亮。
人家說720跟WU比怎麼道你這裡變成XO跟WU比了

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原帖由 变色龙 于 2013-1-27 14:22 发表

能支援SATA3却用SATA2硬盘,微软这么做用意何在?
为了成本舍弃速度?
我是觉得毫无道理
用意就是機械式硬盤在SATA 2和3情況下沒分別嘛
還有不要說成本什麼的,你去看看SATA 2和3的機械式硬盤是不是真的有成本分別

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原帖由 倍舒爽 于 2013-1-27 14:26 发表
实在没新闻。。。就榨一些吧:
(09:27:01) Source:: That said, I'll bet some of you guys have been able to figure out what's tue and what's not..
(09:27:52) miDnIghtEr20C: a little
(09:27:56) miDnIght ...
這段對話頭幾句就又跟目前傳聞衝突了
不過我猜這位不是什麼業內,搞自問自答是為了引真業內出來

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原帖由 变色龙 于 2013-1-27 13:26 发表

只是发发牢骚罢了
想大陆这种连次世代主机行货都没有的国家
多我一个不多,少我一个不少
哎,典型的屌丝单相思。。。
我也是希望主机卖999刀不嫌多的核心屌丝,但是现实是无奈的

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原帖由 Eric_Ma 于 2013-1-27 14:30 发表


我也是希望主机卖999刀不嫌多的核心屌丝,但是现实是无奈的
玩癖西,玩癖西。

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原帖由 变色龙 于 2013-1-27 14:25 发表

一开始就高潮,尼玛现在早泄了。。。
一开始让我感到意外,
其实之前我猜测720的GPU应该是类似8870这种级别的也就没太多抱怨了……

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原帖由 wk6833795 于 2013-1-27 14:39 发表

玩癖西,玩癖西。
GTX580一出来我就买了,就是受不了这代主机N年不进步的渣画面,但是起码头4年应该让人爽的过来就行,360这一代算是做到了

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