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Hi-Res真的有那么神吗?

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原帖由 SimbaKing 于 2016-12-2 11:03 发表
反正无损和320K Mp3我听不出区别

然后我们车友群里有个人号称只听无损,说320K MP3音质太差他无法接受,我把320K MP3 转成FLAC发给他,他居然说音质好到爆……只能呵呵了
MP3做为有损格式320k下的品质挺好的,失真能到0.001%,比啥ogg、wma都好
苹果的320k AAC也只比MP3强那麽一点点,还必须是苹果的改进版AAC其他家不行
mp3最大的问题是码率一低音质立刻爆炸,256k以下被其他有损格式吊打

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dsd直接解成192 flac



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原帖由 samusialan 于 2016-12-2 19:57 发表
那就22khz吧,我觉得对你们来说够用了?还能节约很多东西
学习一下编码基础知识再进来扯吧

数学上说简单点就是,一个平面坐标系里只给你两个坐标点确定值,你没法还原一个唯一且确定表达式的正弦/余弦 函数,必须要更多的点


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原帖由 samusialan 于 2016-12-2 19:57 发表
那就22khz吧,我觉得对你们来说够用了?还能节约很多东西
DSD64这个格式存在的原因就是因为22.05khz够用了

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原帖由 @jjx01  于 2016-12-2 17:27 发表
你传一首来我帮你转,看看糊不糊
你耳朵真幸福

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原帖由 @samusialan  于 2016-12-2 19:57 发表
那就22khz吧,我觉得对你们来说够用了?还能节约很多东西
采样率和频率不是一回事,CD的44K采样是保证最基本频率再双声道的产物,指标是挺低的,所以当前的SACD这类高清音源会有明显提升。

打个比方,200万像素的1080P电视你用200万像素的相机屏摄,能拍清楚每个像素?上2000W的相机就OK

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为什么黑胶唱片销量据说现在还可以?

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采样高于44.1khz没用的话,同理22khz当然够了啊
超过的乐器又没多少,就算有乐器超过了你听的曲子里又不一定用是吧?
就算用了,也没多少人听得出是什么乐器对吧?
就算听得出是什么乐器,你也说不出规格不是吗?
就当是个音色异常点的同类乐器就是了,完全没影响嘛

另外有些人别捣乱,要补知识的自己一边补去,要开枪的看清楚方向

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原帖由 giant 于 2016-12-3 11:02 发表
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为什么黑胶唱片销量据说现在还可以?
莆田系医院的生意也一直还可以

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原帖由 samusialan 于 2016-12-3 12:22 发表
采样高于44.1khz没用的话,同理22khz当然够了啊
超过的乐器又没多少,就算有乐器超过了你听的曲子里又不一定用是吧?
就算用了,也没多少人听得出是什么乐器对吧?
就算听得出是什么乐器,你也说不出规格不是吗? ...
44.1k够用的理论里面没有“曲子不一定用,没多少人听得出,说规格”什么的要求
所以没法和这个22khz“同理”

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我是木耳,但是DSD音色暖过CD还是听得出来差异的

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玄学人士都有一双能听到超声波的耳朵,这是幸福还是痛楚

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原帖由 reg-neo 于 2016-12-3 10:50 发表
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采样率和频率不是一回事,CD的44K采样是保证最基本频率再双声道的产物,指标是挺低的,所以当前的SACD这类高清音源会有明显提升。

打个比方,200万像素的1080P电视你用200万像素 ...
SACD用的DSD64格式,事实上也是44k
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Audio_CD
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In September 2007 the Audio Engineering Society published the results of a year-long trial, in which a range of subjects including professional recording engineers were asked to discern the difference between SACD and a compact disc audio (44.1 kHz/16 bit) conversion of the same source material under double blind test conditions. Out of 554 trials, there were 276 correct answers, a 49.8% success rate corresponding almost exactly to the 50% that would have been expected by chance guessing alone.[40] When the level of the signal was elevated by 14 dB or more, the test subjects were able to detect the higher noise floor of the CD quality loop easily.[1] The authors commented:

Now, it is very difficult to use negative results to prove the inaudibility of any given phenomenon or process. There is always the remote possibility that a different system or more finely attuned pair of ears would reveal a difference. But we have gathered enough data, using sufficiently varied and capable systems and listeners, to state that the burden of proof has now shifted. Further claims that careful 16/44.1 encoding audibly degrades high resolution signals must be supported by properly controlled double-blind tests.[1][41]

Following criticism that the original published results of the study were not sufficiently detailed, the AES published a list of the audio equipment and recordings used during the tests.[42]
在双盲面前,能听到超高频的耳朵毫无用处
《Audibility of a CD-Standard A/D/A Loop Inserted into High-Resolution Audio Playback》
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=70893.0

[ 本帖最后由 jjx01 于 2016-12-3 19:03 编辑 ]
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