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原帖由 BD 于 2007-5-31 17:19 发表


以MS在硬件生产和设计领域的“造诣”，以及厚道程度，等价格低到可以普及的程度，那么我估计我孩子已经可以打酱油了。

如果想要便宜到用来当吃饭桌子也不怕弄脏了心疼的话，估计我孩子的孩子都可以打酱油了。

你这是智商贴么？
这个桌子今年年底投产，将应用于服务业零售业和办公业，价格也就$10K不到

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原帖由 藕是张力 于 2007-5-31 12:24 发表
技术：触摸屏，电子标签，无线通信，哪里有创新？

难道没有听说过整合创新么？

把触摸屏、电子标签、无线通信放在一起你能想象出怎样的产品？

何况Surface用的根本不是过时的触摸屏技术

而是五个摄像头智能识别，可以同时探测多人的触摸、手势等。

Surface的原始概念微软四五年前就提出来了

不应该叫“触摸型桌面系统”，其实是3D多人互动电子桌面

http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/archive/2007/05/30/550808.aspx

自己看吧……

Introducing Surface                                Lotsof talk around here today about Surface, the new Microsoft product thatprovides interaction with digital content through natural gestures,touch and physical objects. It’s a tabletop surface that’s perfect forlearning, sharing, creating, buying, playing Galaga or Pac-Man (I addedthat in). I hear it’s headed to hotels, public entertainment venues,restaurants, those kinds of places. No price tag on it yet, but myguess is that it’s in the $5K-$10K range, not the kind of thing you’dbuy for your game room.
The unit has five separate cameras, a rear projection systemdisplaying an image onto the underside of a thin diffuser which is thetable's surface. Infrared light is also projected onto the diffuserfrom underneath so that objects such as fingers are visible through thediffuser by infrared-sensitive cameras positioned underneath the tablesurface. An image processing system processes the camera images todetect fingers, custom tags and other objects such as paint brusheswhen touching the surface. The objects seen with this system arereported to applications running in the computer so that they can reactto object shapes, 2D bar codes (tags), movement and touch.
I remember when the idea was first presented, must have beenfour or five years ago, when I worked in the channel marketing team. Asmall team was created to build the first prototype. I got to play withit a couple of years ago,and it’s come a long, long ways since then.
Check out the videos on www.microsoft.com/surface. Or check out the demo by Bill Gates, linked up on Engadget.  Pretty cool.
From the fact sheet up on our Press site:

Name of Product: Microsoft Surface™

Category: Surface computing

Product
Overview: Surface is the first commercially availablesurface computer from Microsoft Corp. It turns an ordinary tabletopinto a vibrant, interactive surface. The product provides effortlessinteraction with digital content through natural gestures, touch andphysical objects. In essence, it’s a surface that comes to life forexploring, learning, sharing, creating, buying and much more. Soon tobe available in restaurants, hotels, retail establishments and publicentertainment venues, this experience will transform the way peopleshop, dine, entertain and live.
Description: Surface is a 30-inch display in atable-like form factor that’s easy for individuals or small groups tointeract with in a way that feels familiar, just like in the realworld. Surface can simultaneously recognize dozens and dozens ofmovements such as touch, gestures and actual unique objects that haveidentification tags similar to bar codes.
Surface will ship to partners with a portfolio of basicapplications, including photos, music, virtual concierge and games,that can be customized to provide their customers with uniqueexperiences.
Surface
Computing: Surface computing breaks down traditionalbarriers between people and technology, changing the way peopleinteract with all kinds of everyday content, from photos to maps tomenus. The intuitive user interface works without a traditional mouseor keyboard, allowing people to interact with content and informationby using their hands and natural movements. Users are able to accessinformation either on their own or collaboratively with their friendsand families, unlike any experience available today. Surface computingfeatures four key attributes:
· Direct interaction. Users can actually “grab”digital information with their hands and interact with content throughtouch and gesture, without the use of a mouse or keyboard.
· Multi-touch contact. Surface computing recognizesmany points of contact simultaneously, not just from one finger as witha typical touch screen, but up to dozens and dozens of items at once.
· Multi-user experience. The horizontal form factormakes it easy for several people to gather around surface computerstogether, providing a collaborative, face-to-face computing experience.
· Object recognition. Users can place physicalobjects on the surface to trigger different types of digital responses,including the transfer of digital content.
Features: Multi-touch display. The Surface display iscapable of multi-touch interaction, recognizing dozens and dozens oftouches simultaneously, including fingers, hands, gestures and objectsplaced on the surface.

Horizontal orientation. The 30-inch display in atable-sized form factor allows users to share, explore and createexperiences together, enabling a truly collaborative computingexperience.

Dimensions. Surface is 22 inches high, 21 inches deep and 42 inches wide.

Materials. The Surface tabletop is acrylic, and its interior frame is powder-coated steel.

Requirements: Standard American 110–120V power
System: The Surface custom software platform runs onWindows Vista™ and has wired Ethernet 10/100 and wireless 802.11 b/gand Bluetooth 2.0 connectivity.
Availability: Beginning at the end of this year,consumers will be able to interact with Surface in hotels, restaurants,retail establishments and public entertainment venues.

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原帖由 nrkex 于 2007-5-31 17:24 发表

你这不是放P么

当初把橡皮放到铅笔屁股上的人，把吸管做成可以折叠弯曲的人， 还有松下做连体插座的时候， 是不是都是抄袭啊

你丫现在连主机饭都不如了，和苹果饭一样，“Surface sounds Apple-ish”

说实话就要被骂

看了一次，完全湿了...

看来很多人以为就是一个触摸屏电脑，眼光就不能长远点？

那个刚给采访者拍完照，把相机放到屏幕上照片立马就出现在屏幕上，然后翻过来在背面写上问候语，轻点相片右上角的邮票标志，再点朋友的地址，照片就发给了朋友，前后不到一分钟的时间，简直是太神奇了！！还有那个视频拼图赛车水晶方块太有意思了，说不定以后会有什么样的游戏出现，太期待了，MS太NB了！！

从目前的视频来看还是以公共服务性的用途为主
我倒挺想搞一个自己用的
希望价格和实际应用能够稍微个人化一点
否则还是IPHONE离我们更近一些

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原帖由 阿西达卡 于 2007-5-31 18:59 发表
从目前的视频来看还是以公共服务性的用途为主
我倒挺想搞一个自己用的
希望价格和实际应用能够稍微个人化一点
否则还是IPHONE离我们更近一些

I hear it’s headed to hotels, public entertainment venues,restaurants, those kinds of places. No price tag on it yet, but myguess is that it’s in the $5K-$10K range, not the kind of thing you’dbuy for your game room.

本来和iPhone就是两种应用和方向……根本就不是面向家庭娱乐的产品

还在拿香蕉和苹果比……汗……

无所谓香蕉还是苹果
只不过我对对自己有吸引力的东西，更感兴趣一些而已
然后想到的当然就是实用价值和距离感
新东西和高科技是比较好，但是离得太远也没意思

就这样

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原帖由 阿西达卡 于 2007-5-31 19:10 发表
无所谓香蕉还是苹果
只不过我对对自己有吸引力的东西，更感兴趣一些而已
然后想到的当然就是实用价值和距离感
新东西和高科技是比较好，但是离得太远也没意思

就这样

599美元，只和美国特定运营商签约发售的iPhone离你我很近么……

见签名图……俺对iPhone的怨念不比你小么……

不就是一台PS3么

不过$5K——$10K的桌面...

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原帖由 阿西达卡 于 2007-5-31 19:18 发表
不就是一台PS3么

不过$5K——$10K的桌面...

面向公共服务和娱乐行业

不是家庭用户……

苹果对iPhone的定位的确是很独到的，刻意停留在顶尖的2.5G，而非直奔3G而去

因为Steve Jobs认为现在的3G还不成熟，而手机终端的网络应用实际上Wi-Fi就能替代，带宽和热点都比目前运营商推的3G方案更有实用价值

5000到10000刀价格还可以啊，而且以后还会降价。希望以后家里能摆个类似的东西，估计不会是很远的以后。

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原帖由 madoka 于 2007-5-31 19:25 发表
5000到10000刀价格还可以啊，而且以后还会降价。希望以后家里能摆个类似的东西，估计不会是很远的以后。

目前在家庭娱乐上的应用看起来开没有开发……总不能买个大家伙就玩玩3D纸牌、审判之眼之类的东西吧……

演示里主要都是针对酒店、酒吧、公共服务而开发的特别软件界面

实际上这些应用都是可以根据用户定制的

所以贵的肯定是软件和整体解决方案，而非单卖硬件赚钱

别忘了微软毕竟是软件公司，不是Lenovo……

[ 本帖最后由 RestlessDream 于 2007-5-31 19:30 编辑 ]

以后一定会以民用为目的设计出产品的，在这点上我绝对相信这些搞研发的人:D

想起了少数派报告