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http://club.tgfcer.com/viewthrea ... ;page=2#pid32400459

http://club.tgfcer.com/viewthrea ... ;page=3#pid32403975

请不要咬着不放、zts和1945plus这仨个号不出所料的话，大概率是开不同小号的同一个煞笔，尤其是其中两个小号几乎从未在经典区出现过，估计是发现有机可乘，于是赶紧来骂一波

[ 本帖最后由 燕市游徒 于 2020-4-1 23:24 编辑 ]

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原帖由 clarkh 于 2020-4-3 04:41 发表

模拟器是程序，程序是人花精力写的，愿意免费就免费，愿意收费就收费，只要是自己写的就行，难不成模拟器是天上掉下来的？？？自己写的程序还不能收费了？？？
再说你以为模拟器都是第三方写的吗？还有那些第一方 ...

说得好，铿锵有力、不卑不亢、义正言辞而且掷地有声。

但这话如果是别人说都很有说服力，确实相当有说服力。但你这人说出来就没有说服力。

因为利益相关：你自己就在卖着模拟器前端，请注意我强调是前端而不是模拟器，因为你没有能力开发模拟器。而且你卖的前端是和roms打包贩卖，等于你是在卖rom赚钱，当然了我也不能苛责于你，我也分享过很多roms大包，但是像你这么卖rom而且卖的特贵，我是没有那个脸去干那种事情

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原帖由 clarkh 于 2020-4-3 15:43 发表

对啊，我自己写的前端，我当然可以卖，但是我不但没卖，我还免费发布了，至于别人懒得整理，愿意出钱让我帮忙配置，我这个人又热心肠，既然帮忙就帮到底，再帮他把模拟器和游戏拷进去，很合理啊，如果我只是为了卖 ...

哈，你可是自己跳下场来怼我的，这次总不能怨我找你的茬儿吧？

虽然俗话说先撩者贱，而且你这些发言里除了优越感十足的自吹自擂我也没看出什么干货来，不过做人留一线，所以我确实懒得和你撕逼。

不过你要是真心想撕破脸皮那我也奉陪到底。

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原帖由 clarkh 于 2020-4-4 03:22 发表

你自己先狂妄的跳下场来说所有模拟器都应该免费提供，不就是要饭要了一辈子的乞丐说所有饭店都不应该收钱吗，我做为饭店界的还不能打你俩巴掌了？至于撕破脸，笑话，我什么时候跟你有过交情了，不嫌丢人。
这贴后面你要没什么新观点，我也不会回了，会拉低我的层次。

Sigh...

本人已退避三舍，给你足够的台阶和面子了，而你却不愿意顺着台阶乖乖滚蛋，还要和我强项死杠到底，莫非自以为已经胜券在握了？那休怪我不留任何情面。

虽然我和你确实没什么正经交情可言，但是以前毕竟还算井水不犯河水，有时甚至还能在一些帖子中讨论几句，说是点头之交也不为过吧。以前我敬你有点技术，尚对你礼让三分，但没想到你如今露出本性，却是如此一个鲜廉寡耻之人。

如果说心胸狭隘是gxb自取其辱的根源，那么狂妄自大则是你clarkh自讨灭亡的主因。

同在一个琵琶行论坛里呆了那么多年，每天抬头不见低头见，我还不知道你这人是什么技术水平？

少在这儿给我装蒜充大铆钉，你在大佬遍地的模拟器圈子里根本只是个无足轻重的杂鱼角色，千万可别把自己当根葱，当瓣蒜。

[ 本帖最后由 燕市游徒 于 2020-4-4 04:28 编辑 ]

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原帖由 1945plus 于 2020-4-4 13:49 发表

哈哈，这智商，这算是变相承认被大家抽的口吐白沫了么？

出口伤人，满嘴脏话，只能说明足下不仅智商情商双低，而且素质低下，没有修养。

这会令大家对贵阵营产生不佳印象啊

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原帖由 china_ktv 于 2020-4-4 16:22 发表

肥宅，四十多岁，沉迷二次元，至今孤身一人，也难怪你父母都放弃你了

噗，xswl, 你也配说别人肥宅，咱俩把体重称app截图都贴上来比比谁是肥宅

关于模拟器的延迟。

我本还以为这是众所周知的，但看来很多人还是不懂。

模拟器不可避免的会产生比实机大的延迟，这是由其运作机理决定的，不可避免。

目前有些模拟器力图缩短模拟器相比于实机的输入延迟，并取得了某些进展。但mini机器上的模拟器有没有投入精力去研究怎么缩短延迟，有没有那个技术去缩短延迟，我是比较怀疑的。

https://byuu.org/articles/emulator-latency

Emulator Specific Latency
Another important point is that emulators are not like regular PC games. They have additional latency constraints that PC games can avoid.

This is yet another needlessly 'controversial' statement that I've had to argue with people whom have never written emulators before, but it's true.

Input Polling
Most games are going to poll input once per frame. But pathological cases can and do exist. Especially prominent is that there are certain devs that like to troll emulator authors and will do things like put out a mini-game that hammers the input polling thousands of times a second if we leave an opening there.

As stated earlier, polling the OS input APIs is quite time consuming. If we call out to it every time the emulated environment asks for input states, we could end up having to make thousands or even millions of calls per second, crashing our framerates down to nothing.

We don't have a choice: we must place an upper limit on the number of times we poll the OS input API per second. Generally this will be 16ms in emulators. And once again, this can stack with the hardware polling delay. We can make reasonable guesses when an emulated game is going to poll inputs (usually in the NMI handler that happens after a frame is fully rendered), but in practice any game is capable of polling inputs at any time they like.

Audio Sampling
Whereas a regular PC game can rely on native OS mixing controls to handle multiple voices, an emulator focused on accuracy is not so fortunate.

We cannot skew the audio sample rate to whatever is convenient. We can only generate audio samples when the real hardware generates samples. The emulated game simply outputs the finalized stream, or streams (which we must mix ourselves); and then we must feed that into a buffer to push to the OS audio API.

By losing control of the rate that samples are generated, we end up with more latency.

Video Processing
Once again, when we emulate a system, we can't take any shortcuts. For 2D systems, we have to buffer an entire video frame. Trying to push one pixel at a time as it is generated directly into a video buffer would be a recipe for disaster. Modern GPUs are not designed to work this way. Things work best when you stream a large block of data all at once in a tight loop. 3D systems tend to have similar issues: the transformations needed to convert to OS 3D video APIs like Direct3D and OpenGL generally can't be streamed in real-time to a video card: lots of processing is needed once the entire frame's state is known.

Overlying Theme: Indirection
What all three of the above added delays share in common is that they all represent a layer of indirection, which is exactly what an emulator is: a system running inside another system.

And the cost of this indirection is latency.

Versus Real Hardware
When you look at modern systems, they act more like computers anyway.

But older systems like the SNES would literally blast pixels just in time for the CRT beam cannon, output samples instantly through the DAC to the speakers, poll inputs immediately, etc.

So when you combine the disadvantages of moving from dedicated old hardware to all of the layers of indirection required both by multi-tasking PCs in general in addition to the emulator-specific latency that is required to emulate hardware platforms ... this makes up the total sum of perceived latency in emulators. And it's why emulation can never come close to the responsiveness of real hardware.

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原帖由 china_ktv 于 2020-4-4 16:22 发表

肥宅，四十多岁，沉迷二次元，至今孤身一人，也难怪你父母都放弃你了

咱俩撕扯纠缠了这么多年，也算一种缘分了。那么本人不妨对足下道一番肺腑之言。

足下见过在下么？怎么就能断言在下是个肥宅？是否足下认为只要沉迷二次元的宅男，都是恶臭肥宅。

我不知道足下这种天然优越、俯瞰众生的良好感觉是从哪儿来的，不过足下作为一个在B站有1.5w粉丝的小有名气的up主，这样乱下结论真的好吗？假如足下真心讨厌二次元，那为何还要死皮赖脸的赖在B站？

退一步海阔天空，人世间有如许广阔天地，除了小破站，难道无足下安身立命之处？优酷爱奇艺腾讯视频等网站不到处都是么，那么足下为何还要在B站虚耗光阴呢？

本人再发散思维联想一下，假如足下不仅是不喜欢二次元，而且不喜欢ACG，那还每天泡在ACG类论坛里干啥？瞧不上ACG圈儿，那么足下瞧得上哪里，就去哪里不是更为明智之举么？

况且，因为找不出别人的可黑之处，就不吝以最坏的恶意来揣测别人，公开放言别人又老、又丑而且还爹不疼娘不爱。于是其他不明就里的看客不禁对其侧目而视，啊，原来燕市游徒是这种人？简直是一无是处的人渣啊。

足下如此下贱的抹黑一个毫不熟悉的网上账号，这样真的好吗？

费了这么多唇舌，只为一句忠告：欲正人，先正己。还请足下三思。

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原帖由 请不要咬着不放 于 2020-4-5 16:51 发表
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你这ZZ，除了嘴贱啥也不会。被人怼的缩阳入腹，辩解为不屑于喷。被大家抽的满地打滚口吐白沫，却幻想自己在贴吧一个打十个。别人摆事实讲道理，你避实就虚避重就轻。怪不得在哪儿都 ...

随便骂，反正你狗嘴吐不出象牙

而且这是tg不是s1，没有卡不通之流小人找茬儿封我，你再急也没用