模糊的回忆是美好的

DVD在1996年发售，到2001年中时全美拥有DVD播放器的家庭是1700万

BD在2006年发售，根据DEG新鲜出炉的数据截止2011年6月30日，全美拥有BD的家庭为3160万

DVD从1996年发售，真正可以挑战VHS单年的销售额，大致要到2003~2004年

另外吹下载的给我省省，经过这几年，美国玩下载的已经知道自己的位置，Digital Download在Video这块不管是收入还是增速和BD根本没法比，市场已经基本划分为贩卖归BD/DVD，下载唯一有可能占据比较大份额的是视频租赁市场

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原帖由 保持论坛和谐 于 2011-10-25 20:08 发表


BD再火关日本毛事，那不是SUN的玩意吗

这贴哪有提到日本？

另外，BD JAVA是归SUN的

BD光盘的制作技术、专利大部分是SONY的，BD的光学染料的专利和制作技术是日亚化和SONY共有的，BD的光头二极管的专利和制造技术也基本是SONY的，光盘的硬面涂层是TDK的

注册这么些个马甲，累不累啊？

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原帖由 高达八成 于 2011-10-26 09:10 发表
BD在国内是普及不了了
国外还有可能，如果能追上数字下载的话

谁追谁啊

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原帖由 ss8472 于 2011-10-26 09:00 发表

这31.6M包含PS3不？如果包括的话，那买BD播放器的也不多啊

包含啊

DVD那个1700万里也有几百万PS2啊

Total revenue from Blu-ray discs increased 53% to $2.3 billion. In the most promising news for the industry, Blu-ray sales rose an impressive 69% to $1.8 billion. Sales of Blu-ray discs, which usually cost more than $20, are the most profitable home entertainment transaction for the Hollywood studios.

Sales of movies via the Internet increased 17% to $683 million, while Internet and cable video-on-demand grew 21% to $1.8 billion. Studios are attempting to boost the still-small digital sell-through market through a new joint initiative called Ultraviolet, for which launch details were unveiled this week at Las Vegas' Consumer Electronics Show.

2010全年DEG报告，全美BD影碟销售额23亿美元，而同期网络影片销售额6.83亿美元，加上有线VOD一共18亿美元。

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原帖由 保持论坛和谐 于 2011-10-26 17:54 发表


才23亿的销售额，好像一张碟子的版权费才几美分,索尼还被蓝光专利授权联盟抬出场外

可怜啊

你指那个给个把野鸡厂授权的BD4C，真可怜啊

Licensee List

arvato digital services GmbH (Germany)
arvato digital services LLC (U.S.A.)
Bestdisc Technology Corporation (Taiwan)
BlueStar Digital Technologies, Inc. (U.S.A.)
Cinram International, Inc. (Canada）
D&M Holdings Inc. (Japan)
Dongguan Contel Electronics Co., Ltd. (China)
Forworld Electronics Co., Ltd. (Taiwan)
Funai Electric Co., Ltd. (Japan)
Harman International Industries, Inc. (U.S.A.)
HORON CO., LTD. (Japan)
Memory-Tech Corporation (Japan)
Mitsubishi Electric Corporation (Japan)
Nutron International Co., Ltd. (BVI)
PrimeDisc Corporation Limited （Hong Kong)
Quantum Optical Laboratories (France)
Shenzhen MTC Co., Ltd. (China)
Technicolor S.A. (France)
Toshiba Corporation (Japan)
TOYO RECORDING CO., LTD. (Japan)
U-Tech Media Corporation (Taiwan)
Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Inc. (U.S.A.)
Zhongshan City Litai Electronic Industrial Co., Ltd. (China)

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原帖由 jolinheart 于 2011-10-26 18:30 发表
有些人再怎么吹也改变不了SONY大本营依旧无法普及BD的事实

日本动画影碟产品不是连续两年BD超过DVD了吗？

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原帖由 jolinheart 于 2011-10-26 21:17 发表


你也知道这个限定前提........

其他国家连这样一个领域都没有啊

知道DVD在2001年时在日本的占有率吗？是不是可以得出DVD在日本取代不了VHS的结论？

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原帖由 小黑屋专用 于 2011-10-26 21:52 发表
其实vgchartz有个帖子一直追踪美国的碟片市场，采用的Media Research数据

近2年来，BD和DVD比基本20-25/80--75之间浮动。

不用那么麻烦

BD影碟在美国影碟市场的占有率

2006年  忽略不记
2007年  1.5%
2008年  4.6%
2009年  8.7%
2010年  14.1%

2011年上半年的数字超过了20%，全年冲击25%可能性不大

DVD也是花了N年慢慢爬到30%左右的市场占有率后爆发的

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原帖由 jolinheart 于 2011-10-27 13:57 发表
对啊，你说得一点都没错，所以现在阶段BD在日本都没有普及，这个论点错了吗.......搞了半天不知道你反驳啥233

我就说个过程
第一阶段，DVD出现，市面上都是VHS，只有一部分发行商同时推出DVD和VHS两种版本到市场上
第二阶段，市面上推出的影音产品已经完全DVD和VHS同步推出，有一部分发行商已经开始只推出DVD而放弃VHS
第三阶段，市面上已经完全是DVD占领，VHS产品很少出现在市面上，渐渐退出舞台

你认为BD现在在哪个阶段？？？普及的概念是什么，我认为普及最低限度也是第二阶段达成

换个说法，啥时候BD普及了，等你看到日剧都开始全都出BD套装了，等你看到游戏限定送DVD的全改成送BD了，等你看到AKB的唱片是CD+BD而不是CD+DVD了，那就叫普及了

我觉得阁下本来那个说法就是对这个领域缺乏了解的充分体现

日本这个市场在DVD时代的普及速度就慢于美国，你那个所谓的“连日本都没普及那其他地方就别提”的论点本来就可笑

至今日本人仍有着VHS情节的残留，具体表现之一就是日本是DVD/BD录像机占很高市场份额的国家，比其他地方以单纯播放器为主不一样

之二就是日本的影碟租赁市场占有率也比其他地区更高，或者说购买影碟的行为更趋向于粉丝团体而不是一般受众

所以现在日本市场BD大概15%左右的占有率和美国基本同步我觉得已经不算慢的

当然，如果你想说DVD是失败的，那也可以哦

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原帖由 来福士戴尔 于 2011-10-27 17:53 发表
谈视频的话要不要还算上网络视频的广告收入？

Youtube一年广告收入25亿美元，视频无料提供，比蓝光如何？

国内优酷今年收入都可以过一亿美元，比索尼在国内的收入如何？

有些傻逼青的脑子都僵住了，连他妈商 ...

哇，把你这话稍微翻译下

你的意思是不是可以理解成电视台在N年前就秒杀影碟出售/租赁行业啊

太了不起了

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原帖由 来福士戴尔 于 2011-10-27 18:00 发表
再加一句，Netflix第三季度的收入是8.22亿美元，Hulu今年的收入也有望达到5亿美元，苹果iTunes视频内容下载收入今年约近10亿美元

蓝光在哪里？

我好心提醒你下

Netflix起家靠的是月费制DVD实体的租赁，到今天为止这项业务仍是公司收入的一个重要部分而不是全部靠流媒体，最近Netflix已经承认拆分DVD租赁用户的计划已经失败（股价跌了60%）

至于阁下吹的水果厂么，的确在北美Digital Download这块占有率优势很大，但是……

iTunes dominates digital movie sales
Apple gains market share despite increased competition


Apple's iTunes reasserted itself as the top seller of movies in the U.S. on digital platforms in the first half of the year, according to new research from IHS Screen Digest.
Even as more aggressive competitors pour into the space, iTunes ticked up after two consecutive years of declines. Apple commanded 65.8% of spending in the category, up from 64.9% in the first half of 2010.

Though also-ran services from Microsoft and Sony registered declines over the same period, Walmart's Vudu service also posted a gain on the strength of increased visibility from the retail giant's stores to a new iPad app.

That there's any growth at all in this category, which IHS focuses on digital services that handle streaming-rental or download-purchase transactions of the a la carte variety, is somewhat surprising given that the monthly subscription model epitomized by Netflix has captivated the industry.

An NPD Group study in February found that 61% of video streaming and downloading on the Internet in the U.S. belonged to Netflix, which doesn't even allow downloading. Apple was a distant third in a three-way tie with DirecTV and Time Warner Cable, all with 4%. Comcast finished second with 8%.

But even as its overall share of the digital-movie marketplace falls behind the dominant but declining DVD, surging Internet subscription VOD and cable/satellite VOD, a la carte entrants like iTunes and Vudu are finding there's still room to grow. Getting theatrical product day and date with homevideo release and positive user experiences may be key reasons why.

Though iTunes' .09% increase may not seem much, it's significant given Apple's market share dropped nearly 12 percentage points in the first half of 2010 vs. the same period in 2009.

IHS attributed iTunes' renewed dominance to a variety of factors, including the increasing popularity of the iPad and AirPlay, which connects iTunes with TVs.

Remaining a distant second is Microsoft's Zune Video Marketplace, which fell from a 18.5% share in 2010 to 16.2% in 2011. Jumping two places to No. 3 is Vudu, which showed the year-to-year gain, moving from 1% to 5.4%.

Walmart has been aggressive in its deployment of Vudu since acquiring it 19 months ago, broadening its footprint across connected devices and expanding its presence on the Web via its own website and Walmart.com.

Falling out of the third spot was Sony's PlayStation Store, which dropped from 8.2% to 4.4%. IHS chalked up the decline to both Vudu's growth and the hacking that disrupted Sony's service worldwide during that period.

Amazon sunk to fifth, having remained relatively flat at 4.2%. That number could potentially sink further as the company shifts gears from an a la carte offering to monthly subscription service Amazon Prime.

Some big names in this space that haven't made the list yet are Facebook and YouTube, which both introduced a la carte options earlier this year. There are still plenty more market entrants just beginning to get their feet wet in this space that have yet to amass marketshare, including Blockbuster, Best Buy and Sears.

One would-be entrant that still hasn't made up its mind as to how exactly to enter the market is Redbox, which has indicated a willingness to go digital but hasn't yet specified a gameplan. It could opt to go the SVOD route like Netflix, but its kiosk business has already accustomed its massive customer base to an a la carte model.

The figures take into account both rental (Internet VOD) and purchase (electronic sell through). IHS projects EST will deliver revenues of $247 million in 2011 versus $240 million for 2011. Combined, that $487 million will put the digital a la carte market for movies well ahead of its 2010 tally of $385 million.

While both sides of the digital business represented relatively even spending levels in the first half of 2011, IHS projects that iVOD will likely eclipse EST going forward as the rental model seems to have much more momentum in the digital marketplace. Regardless, both EST and iVOD together are still just a fraction of spending on DVDs, which may be in decline but are still dominant.

U.S. spending on discs in the first half of 2011 amounted to $3.87 billion, down 18.3%, according to the Digital Entertainment Group.

包括水果iTune的视频下载在内的整个Digital市场在2010年是3.85亿美元，2011年预测是4.87亿美元，好多啊，蓝光那20多亿的确不够看