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原帖由 erererr 于 2013-1-27 00:05 发表
至少甩ps4这种言论该收口了。

这个未必。。只能讲差距似乎缩小了。。

目前国外论坛的言论是这样的。。
以gaf为例。。
一帮青青（以索系为主）一边猛倒纯净水为ps系唱赞歌，
然后来几个insider（似真似假，反正专业知识很不错那种，说得你很湿那种）
平息这种舆论，举出一大堆很有道理的“论据”。。。

所以让你觉得ps4不行。。

再个配合sony目前的除赤形势。。
还有和amd合作的时间。。
ms在图形界的重心位置
（这3点都老掉牙了）

gaf大多至少都是从ps1开始玩游戏的玩家，对索尼的感情，绝对可以理解。。

[ 本帖最后由 倍舒爽 于 2013-1-27 00:20 编辑 ]

真的只有32m esram么？？

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我搜了下，假如传闻是真的话，6850cf跑bf3全效@1080p能在大部分时间下60fps，在游戏机上加上优化应该能全程60fps了。。
那么次世代算不过不失吧。。当然还是失望多些。。
但如此一来，基本感觉到两机是想卖399了

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原帖由 allensakura 于 2013-1-27 13:02 发表

怎麼說?
雙精度1.2TFlops,表示單精度有4.8TFlops,近3000個流處理器
ESRAM+DDR3的組合等效300GB/s+的記憶體頻寬
這樣的性能足以讓7970和8870都徹底跪下了,與8950匹敵毫無問題

我的天，那怎么算出来的啊？
6850cf理论下不就只有3tf么？？

另外那位仁兄也只是突然冒泡一说，尤其是720的研发比ps4更滞后这点似乎不切实际。。
只是现在确实是没新闻，就只好拿之推测一下了。。

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原帖由 变色龙 于 2013-1-27 13:22 发表

也许PS4的显卡更良心呢
上海UBI业内不是说了，PS4的显卡性能比XO至少要强20%以上
4GB GDDR5显存

前提是你要证明他真是业内啊，hoho

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原帖由 变色龙 于 2013-1-27 13:35 发表
阿社君比较奇怪的地方就是
之前一直说他看不到逻辑电路结构，不知道里面的cache是什么类型以及多大容量
后来又言之凿凿的说是32MB ESRAM。。。

啊社君哪有肯定32mb esram啊？？


只是。。。只是。。。。
他忽然否定384bit和前面大相径庭。。。（起码是从口吻上差很远）
不知咋的让我更相信384bit的存在（或许受到上层的压力也不一定啊？？ ）

星期一的vgleaks会有更新。。
但望别来个wiiu的新闻才好。。
现在都没啥好说的了。。。

实在没新闻。。。就榨一些吧：
(09:27:01) Source:: That said, I'll bet some of you guys have been able to figure out what's tue and what's not..
(09:27:52) miDnIghtEr20C: a little
(09:27:56) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm guessing the 8 gigs
(09:28:07) Source:: Yep.
(09:28:13) miDnIghtEr20C: and actually, i'd have to open another page to see the other rumors. lol
(09:28:17) miDnIghtEr20C: can't remember off the top
(09:28:21) Source:: Hahaha...
(09:28:36) miDnIghtEr20C: not much has leaked on the controller!
(09:28:45) miDnIghtEr20C: ha ha! i feel as only i know!
(09:28:47) Source:: Yep.
(09:28:55) miDnIghtEr20C: discrete screen! rumble on triggers if still going on
(09:28:57) miDnIghtEr20C: great!
(09:29:11) miDnIghtEr20C: you see the rumor of ps3 being stronger than new xbox?
(09:29:14) miDnIghtEr20C: uh oh!
(09:29:25) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm guessing the core thing is correct as well
(09:30:24) miDnIghtEr20C: here was an ign list...
(09:30:25) miDnIghtEr20C: 1. State of Decay and LocoCycle will be the stars of this year’s Summer of Arcade.
2. Shadow Complex 2 will finally be announced…as an Xbox Live Arcade launch title on the next-generation Xbox.
3. Said next-generation Xbox will be publicly announced at a special event one month or less prior to E3 in June. It will be broadcast live on Xbox Live and the Internet.
4. Microsoft will take a page from the Apple playbook and officially call the next-gen Xbox simply “Xbox.” Not Xbox 720, not Xbox Infinity, not anything else. We’ll casually refer to it as “The New Xbox” for a while until it’s not new anymore.
5. The New Xbox (see, we’re doing it already!) will cost $400 in its most popular/gamer-friendly configuration. Not a penny more. A basic, smaller-storage version will run you $350.
6. The New Xbox will be released in November and kick serious ass on both the tech bench and at retail store registers.
7. Bungie’s new game Destiny will be the headliner at Microsoft’s E3 press conference and be the flagship title for T
(09:30:53) Source:: Yeah, we actually have a fair amount of research on the next Playtation, and it likely will be a bit more powerful in raw specs...but the question is how efficient will it be... and we're predicting that there won't be a huge delta in perf, but Sony will probably have a technical edge.
(09:31:11) miDnIghtEr20C: and another from vgrumors... which btw, is a side sister site of here.
(09:31:13) miDnIghtEr20C: CPU:

- x64 Architecture

- 8 CPU cores running at 1.6 gigahertz (GHz)

- each CPU thread has its own 32 KB L1 instruction cache and 32 KB L1 data cache

- each module of four CPU cores has a 2 MB L2 cache resulting in a total of 4 MB of L2 cache

- each core has one fully independent hardware thread with no shared execution resources

- each hardware thread can issue two instructions per clock

GPU:

- custom D3D11.1 class 800-MHz graphics processor

- 12 shader cores providing a total of 768 threads

- each thread can perform one scalar multiplication and addition operation (MADD) per clock cycle

- at peak performance, the GPU can effectively issue 1.2 trillion floating-point operations per second

High-fidelity Natural User Interface (NUI) sensor is always present

Storage and Memory:

- 8 gigabyte (GB) of RAM DDR3 (68 GB/s)

- 32 MB of fast embedded SRAM (ESRAM) (102 GB/s)

- from the GPU's perspective the bandwidths of system memory and ESRAM are parallel providing combined peak bandwidth of 170 GB/sec.

-
(09:31:33) miDnIghtEr20C: i think Sony is rushing this time around
(09:31:45) miDnIghtEr20C: they were supposed to have such a strong 10 year plan.
(09:32:11) Source:: yeah, those specs are pretty much accurate.
(09:32:31) miDnIghtEr20C: those damn guys that bought the durango cpu!
(09:32:41) miDnIghtEr20C: some of guys on hdd say they won't buy unless it's bc
(09:32:47) miDnIghtEr20C: hope it's bc a bit!!
(09:33:46) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm getting so excited for the start
(09:33:46) Source:: Something they don'tmention, though, is the new box will have TWO scaler chips... and what's cool about that is the UI can always be 1080p, while in-gamerendering resolutions can scaled to increase perf as needed... two dynamic resolution planes.It's nifty.
(09:34:29) Source:: It'll defintely be BC... definitely. But, will every game work? Probably not...
(09:34:31) miDnIghtEr20C: nice
(09:34:42) miDnIghtEr20C: OH SHIT!
(09:34:45) miDnIghtEr20C: thanks for that tidbit!
(09:34:48) miDnIghtEr20C: that's awesome
(09:35:04) miDnIghtEr20C: that info (from my source, hidden as always) is very nice!
(09:35:16) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm trying to get into e3
(09:35:22) Source:: Nice!
(09:35:28) miDnIghtEr20C: but 750 is fucking expensive!
(09:35:45) Source:: Yeah.... it is...
(09:36:03) Source:: Hey, sorry I never got you those codes... I just got really busy.
(09:36:12) Source:: I didn't forget, though.
(09:36:21) miDnIghtEr20C: no worries
(09:36:25) miDnIghtEr20C: i was just bustin your balls
(09:36:35) miDnIghtEr20C: i know you haven't forgotten about us
(09:36:44) miDnIghtEr20C: your small followers!
(09:36:46) miDnIghtEr20C: ha
(09:36:55) Source:: Hahahaha...
(09:37:04) miDnIghtEr20C: how's perfect dark looking? still launch ready?
(09:38:26) miDnIghtEr20C: kinect sports 3 maybe
(09:38:40) Source:: I kno that Rare's other title is heavily invested in water simulation...it's pretty amazing to see what they've done.
(09:38:41) miDnIghtEr20C: how's the controller looking? you guys going touch screen? or just regular
(09:38:48) miDnIghtEr20C: i love water games
(09:38:56) miDnIghtEr20C: wish hydro thunder was a full game
(09:38:58) miDnIghtEr20C: lol
(09:39:32) miDnIghtEr20C: LOVED that game
(09:39:41) miDnIghtEr20C: if it's like that... then you just gave me a morning boner
(09:39:44) Source:: Then I think you'll like what's coming from Rare...
(09:39:59) miDnIghtEr20C: i just post about that game about 3 weeks ago, saying i wish nintendo would make a next gen waverace
(09:40:06) miDnIghtEr20C: awesome B)
(09:41:47) miDnIghtEr20C: i'm looking forward to it all man
(09:42:03) Source:: Me too... I cn't wait for us to announce!!

http://showtimeforfree.com/index.php?topic=5635.msg73194#msg73194

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原帖由 变色龙 于 2013-1-27 14:47 发表

尼玛之前我觉得999美刀能买到这个配置的PS4就心安了，起码战10年啊

你有实力。。
这配置我看我连电费都给不起了。。
而且大部分能耗在液冷上。。

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原帖由 @killmesoftly  于 2013-1-27 21:01 发表
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居然有这么多人相信骚尼2011年才和农企合作

真是太好骗了

愿闻其详！！

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3g内存占用以及2核心，怎么都不觉得是负面啊，最多只能说是中性。。
这不是说明功能更多战略更大。。么？？

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原帖由 Oishi 于 2013-1-28 12:36 发表

不止一个开发员表示PS4的指标比720高了呵呵

不止一个？？
敢问你的信息来源呢？

我只看到yojioh说ps4更强啊，再个yojioh没有任何迹象能说明他是业内的。。
bd老师最多是在否认一些谣传而已。。

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原帖由 小僵尸 于 2013-1-28 13:32 发表


毛片御姐是不是业内这个需要证明吗

这个论坛上一票人都是业内，管理员和版主中有好几个，如果我没有记错的话

怎么不需要呢？完全不认识啊。。介绍下可以吗？？

坛子一大票是业内是另一回事，这个没必要把话题扯太远，呵呵。。

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忽然间觉得那边也有点道理，sony如果真肯下点本的话，ps4该会有cell。。
除了兼容外，就算到时ps3游戏没人玩了，还能起codec，甚至协助运算的作用。。
再个的确不贵，现在已经好便宜了。。
还有一方面