写的长了点，请大家耐心读完。

现在大家都在讨论欧足联会不会裁定进球无效从而设定重赛，事实上看台上针对曼联球迷的突发事件更需要UEFA迅速调查并作出及时反应，如果他们还想履行自己职责的话。相比Giggs那个球到底算还是不算，差点发生的球迷群体性伤亡事件，更足以让UEFA颜面扫尽。

我在前面一个帖子里已经基本介绍了当时曼联球迷看台发生的混乱，现在又有了一些最新的消息。总体来说，法国警察，对不起，我还是控制不住自己的感情，请允许我用“法国畜生”，的残暴和愚蠢，直接导致了客队球迷看台上的悲剧。据一些当时经历整个事件的曼联球迷回忆，法国畜生从比赛开始前就对客队球迷非常不友好，甚至在场外的酒馆附近就下毒手，棒打曼联球迷，有一些还是年纪大的和妇女。据在场的英国记者和法国记者报道，比赛开始前，曼联球迷的看台相当有秩序，几乎看不出任何要出乱子的迹象。开球后15分钟里，越来越多的曼联球迷涌进入客队球迷看台，有不少是购买了黑市票，座位本不在这个区域，但也要过来“找组织”，看台的门卫居然就放他们进来了，导致本能容纳3500人的下层看台差不多站了5000人左右。

看台已经是水泄不通，几乎连转身的空间都没有，大家都想挪一下，结果就导致后排朝前排挤，前排的球迷直接被挤到――在英国已经绝迹的非常不人性化的――铁丝网上。有几个身体虚弱的被挤的几乎透不过气来，球迷大声呼叫工作人员打开边上的看台，因为上面还有不少空座，把人流分过去，可惜这一拨法国畜生也没有任何反应。在这种极端情况下，前排的球迷被迫开始攀爬铁丝网，试图逃生，注意，我用的是“逃生”，因为后来的照片显示有一个女孩，是被众人合力推举过铁丝网，从而可以让球场内的工作人员抬走，当时已经奄奄一息。

就在大家被挤的无法动弹的时候，防暴畜生警察登场了，球迷很焦急（英国人闭上眼都能清晰的回想出Hillsborough），奋力朝这帮畜生疾呼看台上过于拥挤，请他们采取措施打开边上的看台。但是全副武装的畜生似乎对此根本不感兴趣，他们开始像平时训练那样上演暴力。先是用自行车链条猛抽看台前排紧贴在铁丝网上的球迷，然后突然间，开始直接朝近在咫尺的球迷释放催泪瓦斯。我估计巴以那边天天闹，警察都不敢这么近距离朝人的脸部放瓦斯。对球迷来说，本来是在挤压中找路逃离，突然被催泪瓦斯正面攻击，有几个倒地不起，原本由于挤压引起的呼吸困难在瓦斯的刺激下变的更糟，几个甚至出现短暂的窒息。顺便提一句，连和看台还有一段距离的荷兰长人都被瓦斯熏到，可见那帮畜生出手之狠，放出瓦斯的量之大。

我真感谢老天，Giggs那个球发生他们面前那个门，对他们实在是个很大的安慰。

赛后，法国畜生还没有收手的意思。把曼联球迷圈在看台上长达40分钟，当中隔着铁门，相互看不见，突然间，畜生又开始从铁门上方喷射催泪瓦斯，可以毫不夸张的说，赛后再这么干，绝对算是朝手无寸铁的平民开火了。

等这帮畜生发够了，曼联球迷才被允许退场，走道里外还有一帮没爽够的法国畜生朝单个球迷动手，到这时要是再任人宰割就不是英国球迷了，于是就发生一个畜生被瞬间打晕的大快人心的场面。

还有一些曼联球迷被畜生围在球场外的一个停车场，举着大棒和催泪瓦斯罐，也不动手，似乎更想激怒英国人从而可以出师有名。一个70多岁的老曼联球迷跑过去跟其中一个畜生说“如果你们来英国看球，我们的警察不会这么对待你们。”“那你有种今后就呆在英国别出来。”畜生是这么回话的。

最后几个年轻力壮的曼联球迷统一发力，带领大家像橄榄球冲刺那样冲散了那帮畜生，胜利大逃亡，虽然过程中头顶挨了不少棒喝。

你不要以为我在给你编小说，我自己也没经历过这种人间地狱，这些全是今天英国《卫报》《每日电讯报》《泰晤士报》上的详细报道。我也不愿去看法国的报纸，可以想象，肯定是帮着那帮畜生说话，诋毁曼联球迷。他们似乎还生活在去年巴黎圣日尔曼球迷大骚乱的阴影中，坚定的采取“杀无赦，斩立决”的策略。

Most United supporters, families included, went to the match expecting it to be a modern World Cup stadium but I've been to France with United before and I know how heavy-handed the police can be. There always seems to be at least one incident and this one could have been fatal.
As soon as we got into the stadium we knew we should make our way to the other side of the away end. There was only one entrance, the concourses had been locked and it was obvious there would be people coming in late. There were no signposts outside the ground and it had taken 20 minutes walking around the dark paths and narrow alleyways around the stadium to find the right entrance.

We finally found a place to the left of the goal and when the game started we realised people were climbing the fences to our right. At first we thought it was just a few idiots looking for trouble but it quickly became apparent something was seriously wrong.

The terrifying thing was seeing stewards carrying out people in their arms. We've all seen the images of Hillsborough and it looked to us, in that moment of panic, like they were dead. All sorts of rumours were going around, all sorts of things were flashing through our minds - is this as bad as it looks? Then texts started arriving from people watching on TV asking if we were OK. I was getting texts from America and Australia and it felt like they had a better idea of what was happening than us.

People started trying to get away from the area where the fans were being crushed and were moving over in our direction, coughing and choking and spluttering because of the tear gas. There were women and children among these supporters and they were in obvious distress. They were being crushed, they couldn't breathe and then tear gas had been sprayed in their faces. The police were in their Robocop uniforms, had their batons drawn and it felt like they were enjoying it.

What the media don't seem to have picked up is that the police continued to treat everyone this way after the game. We were kept inside the stadium for 40 minutes. The riot police were behind the steel gates. They couldn't see us, we couldn't see them. All of a sudden some black gloves appeared at the top and started spraying tear gas indiscriminately in our direction. People were just dropping to the floor.

They finally let us out and there were dozens of riot police charging into us. By this stage it did result in some fighting. I saw one policeman being attacked. But it was under extreme provocation. Everyone was absolutely furious about the way we were being treated.

We were locked into a car park and kept there for 45 minutes. The police's attitude seemed to be that they wanted us to attack them. They had their batons out and their tear-gas canisters. One man, in his 70s, said to one policeman: "We would never treat you this way in our country." The policeman told him: "If you don't like it, stay in England in the future." The United fans were unbelievably calm and patient but eventually they started heaving forward like a rugby scrum. The police lines broke but they did everything possible to smash us over the heads as we passed. It was an absolute nightmare.

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原帖由 blueteeth 于 2007-2-23 09:50 发表
那个球还是看不太不明白~~~好像对里尔挺不公平

这种球99年我就看到过了
Beckham Giggs Henry在英超都进过这种球
完全符合规则

曼聯對於里爾將偽造門票事件歸究於曼聯感到強烈不滿。

由於部份持有偽造門票的球迷成功進場，令原本只能容納三千五百人的作客球迷區擠了五千人。

因為人數眾多，警方更一度向球迷發放催淚彈驅趕球迷，而里爾總監杜諾更開腔指責曼聯球迷的暴力行為，與及曼聯會方發放門票的方式。

「我們數周前向球會發出了門票配額，也是我們一貫的做法。」杜諾說。

「但他們在一個月前便已經向球迷們派發了門票。」

「結果是一些偽造得十分精美的門票出現了，而且他們更成功進場。所有被發現為偽造門票的都是來自曼聯球迷。」

不過，球場的保安主管卻表示，衝突與人數眾多無關，並表示這純粹是球迷的暴力行為，因為該看台當時並沒有擠滿。

而曼聯發言人隨即作出還擊說︰「我們的門票一向在比賽前十一天或者二月一日派發給球迷。平時於奧脫福主場的門票在比賽六週前便送出，一向都沒有偽造門票的問題。」

一般相信，曼聯會向歐洲足協投訴里爾門票的質素不佳，令門票容易出現偽造情況。

而一名當晚在場的球迷，也是曼聯獨立球迷會的成員之一的夏利遜則說︰「這些說法簡直是垃圾。在警方發放催淚彈之前球迷的秩序根本沒有問題。」

「但之後因為有不少球迷受驚大呼求救，並有部份嘗試逃走，才會出現混亂情況。」

「事實上是太多球迷進了看台，遠遠多於門票數目，保安亦沒有查明清楚門票便讓球迷入場。」

而歐洲足協將會在三月二十二日就事件作出聆訊，曼聯方面亦會向有關方面提出報告，當中包括球迷代表的證供。相信里爾在之後的歐洲賽事，可能會被迫使用巴黎的法國國家隊主場作為比賽場地。而現在他們則使用朗斯的主場。

另外，里爾也就傑斯在週二晚射入的罰球作出投訴，不過歐洲足協應會在週五推翻投訴。

而事後部份里爾球員企圖拉隊離場，可能會遭到罰款。

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原帖由 城里的月光 于 2007-2-23 12:45 发表
MU是豪门
不可能被驱逐出欧冠
再说了，这种胜之不武的比赛……
得了便宜你就卖那什么去吧
99年进过就进过呗
球迷理直气壮
欧足联可不这样
转天的4场比赛裁判们一个个可紧张着呢
裁判也真是，你再纱布也 ...

这帖不是在讨论那个进球
那个进球也没什么好讨论的
完全符合规则
再说厂饭鄙视这种进球真的要233了

这帖想说的是我们球迷和队员的人身安全受到侵犯
而里尔倒打一耙,转移视线,恶人先告状
是在说这种卑鄙无耻的行径
当然两边的新闻都会为自己说话
但事实真相还是有的
你分不清真相就不要乱喷

ps,zt不懂是什么意思么 我不象你,不关你的事还来码这么多字真蛋疼
球队输了没处发泄么

行了行了
你无非就是认为我是得了便宜还卖乖
这也显示了你的认知水平在什么程度上
我也没什么好多说的了

ps,
Q:里尔球迷为什么骚乱
A:没见过世面 没素质