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作者: ffcactus 时间: 2018-2-15 15:36 标题: 多家专业音频媒体认为苹果Home Pod，目前音质最好的智能音箱

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最终剁手的直接信号是来自 Reddit 音频发烧社区的测试：
HomePod 100% 是一个发烧级音箱！

WinterCharm 测试
WinterCharm 的测试中，跟 999 美元专业 HiFi 音箱 KEF X300A 做 AB 测试，胜出的竟然是 HomePod。
评测中，WinterCharm 使用了专业级 MiniDSP UMIK-1 USB 麦克风录入以及 Room EQ Wizard 测试软件。由于苹果在这么小体积的音箱内做了如此高保真的音质，太过出乎意料，WinterCharm 删掉第一次测试的结果，检查完所有的设置后又重测了一遍。
专业音频媒体 WhatHiFi 的评测结果也印证了 WinterCharm 的结论——目前音质最好的智能音箱，跟各大众科技媒体的结论一致。
苹果一直有音乐情结。如今 iPhone 每年贡献着大部分的营收，以至于我们常忽略，苹果正是靠着音乐重生——iPod。用一句矫情的话讲，它始终站在了科技与人文的十字路口，音乐恰恰就是它的一个立足点。
纵观现代消费电子的发展历程，从磁带的研发到 Walkman，音乐先成就了索尼。
同样地，音乐也成就了苹果的重生。1997 年乔布斯回归后的苹果百废待兴，大刀阔斧缩减产品线，引入库克等高管。而真正把苹果带入上升轨道的，则是 2001 年推出的 iPod。
没错还是与音乐相关。当乔布斯说出你可以把全部音乐曲库装入口袋时，台下的呼声高涨。

本帖最后由 ffcactus 于 2018-2-15 16:08 通过手机版编辑

作者: Google 时间: 2018-2-15 15:43

zzzzzz

作者: jjx01 时间: 2018-2-15 16:13

EDIT: before you read any further, please read /u/edechamps excellent reply to this post and then read this excellent discussion between him and /u/Ilkless about measuring, conventions, some of the mistakes I've made, and how the data should be interpreted. His conclusion, if I'm reading it right, is that these measurements are largely inconclusive, since the measurements were not done in an anechoic chamber. Since I dont have one of those handy, these measurements should be taken with a brick of salt. I still hope that some of the information in here, the discussion, the guesses, and more are useful to everyone. This really is a new type of speaker (again see the discussion) and evaluating it accurately is bloody difficult.

https://www.reddit.com/r/audioph ... ophile_perspective/

不过至少比人耳靠谱多了

作者: refo 时间: 2018-2-15 16:57

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原帖由 Google 于 2018-2-15 15:43 发表
zzzzzz

没看懂，求科普

作者: jun4rui 时间: 2018-2-15 17:00

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原帖由 @refo 于 2018-2-14 20:57 发表
没看懂，求科普

放苹果箱子的木质桌子都留下了不可消除的圆圈痕迹，你没看新闻？

作者: refo 时间: 2018-2-15 17:06

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原帖由 jun4rui 于 2018-2-15 17:00 发表
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放苹果箱子的木质桌子都留下了不可消除的圆圈痕迹，你没看新闻？

谢科普。我新闻不就是在TG看么。。。

作者: Hibino 时间: 2018-2-15 17:31

塞你屁眼去吧

音效盲听测试：HomePod 惨败 Sonos One、Google Home Max 表现出色
http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/tech/699173.htm

作者: grammyliu 时间: 2018-2-15 17:33

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HomePod的低音比较好，但是声场明显不如Google Home Max

作者: ffcactus 时间: 2018-2-15 18:26

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原帖由 @Hibino 于 2018-2-15 17:31 发表
塞你屁眼去吧

音效盲听测试：HomePod 惨败 Sonos One、Google Home Max 表现出色
http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/tech/699173.htm

文盲。一群文化人在那里盲听没有任何参考作用。

测评必须上仪器。

作者: aweiwei 时间: 2018-2-15 18:37

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不用人耳朵听，那这音响给谁听？

作者: grammyliu 时间: 2018-2-15 18:50

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原帖由 @aweiwei 于 2018-2-15 06:37 PM 发表
不用人耳朵听，那这音响给谁听？

等一个音乐厅里坐满机器人

作者: fanti 时间: 2018-2-15 19:19

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sonos系统棒极了，把听做到最简单，给家里老人最好的礼物

作者: Hibino 时间: 2018-2-15 19:52

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原帖由 aweiwei 于 2018-2-15 18:37 发表
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不用人耳朵听，那这音响给谁听？

给lz用屁眼听

作者: ffcactus 时间: 2018-2-15 21:20

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原帖由 @Hibino 于 2018-2-15 19:52 发表
给lz用屁眼听

LOW怪好自欺，2333

作者: Callisto 时间: 2018-2-16 06:59

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乞丐中的霸主

作者: ooo 时间: 2018-2-16 08:37

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用仪器测比较准。长草中。。。

作者: 雾桑 时间: 2018-2-16 09:13

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原帖由 @ooo 于 2018-2-16 08:37 发表
用仪器测比较准。长草中。。。

仪器喷了
让我想起了当年小米耳机发布个线状图，走势跟K3003类似

作者: jjx01 时间: 2018-2-16 14:27

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/h ... best-160346138.html
……
My five panelists included Darwin, a professional violinist who spends a lot of time listening to recordings on nice gear; Julie, an entrepreneur and homeowner who is precisely the target market for these speakers; Dana and Tori, high-schoolers who haven’t yet begun to lose their ability to hear high frequencies; and Rob, a sound technician for Yahoo.
……

The explanation
I actually have no great explanation for this outcome. Most of the panelists had ranked the HomePod (“B”) as first on some of the songs — just not most of the songs.

Rob: “For me, A, the Sonos, consistently had the most robust sound of all of them.”
Tori: “The Sonos won two of them for me. ‘B’ [HomePod] won the ‘Star Wars.’”
Dana: “’B’ [HomePod] won one of mine. I felt like ‘A’ [Sonos], a lot of times, sounded a lot more sharp.”
Julie: “I picked between B and D [HomePod and Google Home Max] as being the two best. B and D were pretty clear. And C [the Amazon Echo] came in consistently last for me.”
Darwin: “I actually found A [the Sonos] to be the one that I hated the most. B [HomePod] did win one for me. It won ‘Havana,’ because it had a better low end. But I generally picked D [Google Home Max], because it had a clearer, nicer range. As a classical person, I definitely would go with D. But if I were listening to more pop stuff, I could see where ‘A’ [Sonos] could win.”
So what are we to make of this? Why did none of my panelists rank HomePod a solid No. 1, when most critics all do (and so do I)?

Was something wrong with my setup? Well, no, because the night before, using the same setup, Nicki and Mike both ranked the HomePod No. 1.

Here are my theories:

Different music is different. My panelists all conceded that there was some variation depending on the material. “Honestly, they were pretty on par,” Rob said. “I don’t know that one stood out that much more than the other.” “It was much different with different music,” Darwin added. “It varied a lot for me, depending on the song,” Tori agreed.
Different people are different. I said that most professional critics ranked HomePod as No. 1, but not all of them. Buzzfeed’s critic Nicole Nguyen, for example, concluded: “Ultimately, none of this is a hard science, and audio preferences are highly subjective. Reactions to its audio quality from the four people who listened to it for this review.. were mixed. The HomePod outperformed other speakers in some situations and not others.” And the Wall Street Journal’s Joanna Stern wrote, “The HomePod’s bass is impressive for the size of the speaker, but in many songs, it’s far too front-and-center in the mix.”
Nobody else did blind tests. As far as I can tell, none of the other critics who declared HomePod No. 1 actually set up their own blind A/B/C/D tests. Maybe their conclusions wouldn’t have been so emphatic if they had.
Apple’s setup was different. Remember, Apple’s four speakers were each connected to the source material differently: Two wired, one over Wi-Fi, one over Bluetooth. Maybe that wasn’t an even playing field — and for sure, it wasn’t a real-world playing field. Most people, most of the time, just connect these speakers to their Wi-Fi networks and stream music from an online service.
What I can say for sure is this:

To my ears, the Apple HomePod generally sounds better than any other smart speaker—but only somewhat, and only in direct A/B/C/D tests. If you listened to the HomePod, Sonos, and Google Home an hour apart, you’d never be able to declare one a clear winner. (Everyone agrees that the Amazon Echo Plus is the loser in this roundup, but then again, it’s $150 and the size of a Pringle’s can; it’s not a fair fight.)
You can get two Sonos Ones for the price of a single Apple HomePod. You can use them as a stereo pair, or put them in different rooms and control them by voice. And you can have your choice of 42 music services (Spotify, Pandora, TuneIn, etc.) — not just Apple Music. And you can use all of Amazon’s Alexa voice commands (and, soon, Google’s commands and even Siri’s commands!), meaning you can control a vastly larger range of smart-home devices than the HomePod can.
Everybody’s different.
Music gear (and listening tests) are famously contentious; they’re probably responsible for triggering more flame wars online than abortion and gun control put together. I’d love to hear your thoughts on Apple’s test and mine in the Comments!

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