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作者: linchen0_0 时间: 2016-10-23 22:33 标题: [为什么没人转] LPVG的NS的小道消息！

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info/

Back in August of this year, Let’s Play Video Games began running a number of reports and rumours regarding the Nintendo NX, since renamed the Nintendo Switch. Although much of our info proved accurate, some has yet to be addressed in the three-minute reveal trailer for the system. We thought this would be a perfect time to give a little additional info on which information came from which sources, which things were accurate or not, and as such which as-of-yet unconfirmed rumours and reports are likely to be proven true in the coming months.

Let’s start by giving a little overview of our sources in the run-up to the Nintendo Switch reveal. I have confirmed via Emily Rogers (AKA ArcadeGirl64) and EuroGamer’s Tom Phillips, who both had different leaks regarding the system, that our sources differ. These sources are unique to my attempts to report on the system prior to reveal.
Source A – A close source to an internal Nintendo division. Will avoid specifying in which capacity they work, or in which region. They have a decent awareness of production, retail hardware, development hardware and marketing plans.
Source B – A source close to development at a Ubisoft studio. This should not come as a surprise considering some of my reports have had specific information regarding Ubisoft software development. They are primarily aware of development kits.
Source C – A source connected to a large indie developer.
Source D – A source connected to a manufacturing partner.
Source E – A source who helped me leak Until Dawn: Rush of Blood one week prior to announcement back in 2015.
I also, in places, conferred with Tom Phillips and Emily Rogers to see if their separate and distinct sources had heard similar, contradictory, or matching info. This was particularly useful when working with new sources.
The reason for fleshing out my sources here is so that I can clarify which information came from which sources, why it might be accurate, and where I may have slipped up in attempting to report on the system.
Announcing “The NX Reveal is Coming Tomorrow” Before the Official Announcement
If you’re waiting on official NX reveal its seeming like Tomorrow (Thurs American Time) may finally be the big day from what I’m hearing.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 19, 2016
Be among the first to discover #NX. Watch the Preview Trailer at 7am PT/10am ET! pic.twitter.com/R2QTzjyLUo
— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) October 20, 2016
This was a super last-minute piece of news to me.
I found out the NX / Switch reveal video was coming around 1 hour before it was officially announced, and tweeted about it twenty minutes later (40 mins before official announcement). This information came from Source A (Nintendo) and was backed up by others with reliable sources.
Alongside this information I was given a rundown of roughly what to expect in the trailer, but I could not find a second source, either direct or from another person with sources, to corroborate. As much as I trusted Source A, I did not want to risk running this information without double-sourcing it.
I was told the NX reveal would be three minutes long (later confirmed by Nintendo), that it would initially focus on showing off Zelda: Breath of the Wild running, that it would focus on revealing the hybrid nature of the device and would reaffirm launch month, but not date or price.
Expect NX official name to be revealed tomorrow, alongside the look of the device. Not launch line up. Zelda BOTW NX shown.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
Source A told me they had not seen the trailer, but had had it described to them. As such, I was careful not to take it as gospel.
Source A also told me the Switch name. I did not run it because I only had a single source on the information, but I did spend the following 24 hours searching for domain redirects, trademarks or references in interviews to the name Switch, but found nothing. The fact I could not find corroborating evidence is the reason why I alluded to having heard a name, but why I was reluctant to share it publicly at the time. I did, however, confirm that it was not using the Wii name.
NX not using Wii line branding.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
Do not expect NX hardware spec details tomorrow.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
Trailer will be three mins focused on what it looks like, is, does and is called. Rest of the info will come afterwards.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
I’ve heard an alleged NX name from a single source. Not confident enough in it without a second source to share it.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
I know it’s easy for me to say so now, but Switch is the name I heard floating around pre announcement.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
Single source, no sign of site registration / trademarks for it, I was not confident enough to run it. Feel confident I did the right thing.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
Source A (Nintendo) also told me that the trailer would reveal the system’s use of cartridges rather than discs. I was confident in this because it lined up with info from source B (Ubisoft).
Tomorrows 3 min trailer will confirm the NX use of cartridges.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
A few people asked me why, if it was a hybrid, Nintendo had called it a home system in their announcement. I had an answer for that ready.
The home console branding is so it’s thought of as a portable home console not a handheld with TV play first.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
While I had worked with source A on a number of the August NX rumours, this was the moment that I began to have true, deep down confidence that they knew their shit.
The “NX to Feature PS4 -style Split D-Pad and Share Button” Report
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While above image may have looked a little silly when we posted it back in late August, it ultimately turned out to be a pretty accurate image of the retail system. The image was provided by source B (Ubisoft), based on development hardware, and functionally matches the layout of the final hardware. The above development kit drawing correctly showed the NX as having offset sticks (as opposed to the Eurogamer image which showed both sticks at the top), as well as the rough location of the home and (I still believe) share buttons.
It did fail to reveal the small + and – buttons on the top of the detachable controllers. I have been told that these are not present on early development hardware.
While the buttons on the left switched from rectangles to circles to match the shape of the letter buttons on the right, my source correctly identified they would be individual buttons rather than a D-Pad for separated controller use as displayed in the reveal trailer.
I confirmed the image accuracy by running it past an additional source who confirmed it did not clash with any information they were aware of, as well as Source A (Nintendo). It was also corroborated by Source C (Indie).
While the “share” button I reported on is present on the controller, in the reveal trailer it does not feature a camera icon. I still believe that it is a share button in the same sense I initially reported it to be. I still believe that it will “allow the upload of still images and video directly to Miiverse, Twitter, Facebook or YouTube. It will also be possible to save images or video to external memory devices for easier transfer to PC.”
That wraps up that report. We were proven correct on sticks being offset, D-Pad being split buttons and the location of an additional button on the left Joy-Con Controller. I still believe my source that said the button was to facilitate sharing media.
The “NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock” Report
NX-Layout-1
Yeah, not gonna lie, we fucked up a little when it came to this report in late August. Time for the fun of transparency.
So, the dimensions and diagram here were provided by SOURCE F!
Source F, not mentioned at the start, proved inaccurate and unreliable. They were a new source who reached out to us regarding dimensions and console specifics. They provided falsified evidence they worked for a publisher working on a 2017 NX game. We failed to thoroughly vet this new source. There are checks I could have done and failed to take the time to do.
I ran the image past Source D (Manufacturing) who told me “Yep, looks about right to me”. They were not able to check specifics at the time, and I did not press them to. I foolishly took their vague response as enough to consider the diagram confirmed. That was a mistake on my part.
It was quickly revealed that the source was inaccurate, and we updated our report post to reflect that. We used a vague comment from a verified source as confirmation of info from a new source rather than vetting them properly. They cobbled together info from previous rumour posts and made educated plausible guesses. I will not repost that info here, as I have no reason to believe it is accurate.
HOWEVER!
In this report we also mentioned the “Switch” being region free. This was in no way based on information from source F (F stands for Fail… on our part… with vetting that source).
The information about the system being region free comes from sources A, B and E (Nintendo, Ubisoft and Rush of Blood). As A and B were accurate as a pair when it came to the Split D-Pad and “Share” Button report, and the Rush of Blood source has been accurate in the past, I still believe the system will be region free.
The “Detachable NX Controllers Support Motion Control and Force Feedback” Report
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While much of the information in this report has yet to be proven accurate or inaccurate, I have significant reason to still believe it as accurate.
In short, our rumour stated that the Switch Joy-Cons would feature motion control and rumble support. I believe this is still accurate.
Our sources on this report were Sources A and B (Nintendo and Ubisoft). We have been given no reason at this point to suspect either source as inaccurate. Source B (Ubisoft) claims that the current version of Just Dance in development supports Wii Remotes, or Joy-Cons, for multiplayer play. Source A (Nintendo) confirmed Wii Remote support on dev kit, and confirmed the Joy-Cons as phasing out Wii Remotes over time. So, why not show that in the reveal trailer?
I asked Source A (Nintendo) why motion control support was not addressed in the reveal trailer. They said that the purpose of the reveal trailer was to show the console’s unique selling point in as focused a manner as possible. They say that motion support will be confirmed closer to launch, but that Nintendo does not want the brand messaging around the Switch confused at this early stage.
Source A (Nintendo) has since stated that the Splatoon and Mario Kart games in development, as well as Zelda: Breath of the Wild, will support motion control for things like gyro aiming, steering, use of the magnet ability in Zelda etc.
The “Beyond Good and Evil to be NX Exclusive, 2018 release, semi reboot” Report
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This one entirely came via Source B (Ubisoft). Back in March they initially confirmed to me reports that the game was in talks to be an NX exclusive funded by Nintendo.
Source B (Ubisoft) was unclear if a deal was made in the end, but was able to show verifiable evidence that a meeting took place to discuss making the title exclusive to NX.
The timetable of events as I now understand it from Source B (Ubisoft) is that the past six months have been legal and pre-development discussions of budget and direction, project scope, and how much of previous development efforts could be salvaged. The October art teases, as I understand it, were a result of the project reaching a point where all parties were confident they could re-announce it and not have it be another announcement that didn’t ultimately lead to a release.
The “Do not believe that Dev Kit image” Tweet.
In the hours since the official reveal of the Nintendo Switch, a lot of people have been asking me about the below tweet, in which I asserted the below image was not a real NX development kit.
Do not believe the “NX Dev Kit” image going around today which came from /v/. Can 100% confirm it’s not real.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
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Both Sources B (Ubisoft) and C (Indie) have given me strong reason to believe they have their hands on development kits. They have both told me that this image is not of a development kit, and is likely mocked up based on rumours. I do not argue that it may look similar, but this is not the real thing.
The “Switch has a multitouch screen” Tweets
I am VERY confident in saying that the Nintendo Switch screen is a touch screen, but that is not core to most gameplay.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
I’ll be there for menus, for drawing, for certain games like Mario Maker port etc.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
I’m confident in saying that the Nintendo Switch’s screen is a multi-touch screen.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
As all Nintendo Switch games need to be playable with the handheld in the console dock, all Switch games will be playable without touch.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
These tweets were based on information from Source A (Nintendo). As shown above, they knew enough to know when the reveal trailer was coming before the official announcement. They know their stuff.
The “Switch dock has some additional processing power” Tweets
RE: dock, what I’ve heard is additional processing (lacking specifics atm) for when docked. However, would expect a few secs to switch.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
If there is additional processing in the dock, I would expect at least a few seconds to swap handheld to console etc.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
This information again came from sources A (Nintendo), B (Ubisoft) and D (Manufacturing). None could confirm whether the dock is a PlayStation VR-style processing box which helps power higher resolution play when docked, or if docking the console simply allows the handheld to overclock and provides better performance that way. All sources claim the hardware has an easier time running docked compared to when out and about as a portable.
Many on Twitter have drawn my attention to this interview with IGN where Nintendo state that “The dock is not the main console unit of Nintendo Switch… The main function of the Nintendo Switch Dock is to provide an output to the TV, as well as charging and providing power to the system.”
To that, I reply that they repeatedly use the words “main function” and “Main Console” here which still leaves a lot of room for clarity. I believe these statements were aimed at clarifying the Switch was not another Wii U style console rather than saying the dock won’t in any way alter game performance. You can’t play the dock without the handheld, but that doesn’t mean the dock won’t improve game performance.
The “Battery Life” Tweet
To those asking about battery life on Nintendo Switch, I’m hearing “mediocre” battery life.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
Source A (Nintendo) described the Switch as having a “mediocre” battery life. Source B (Ubisoft) has said a maximum battery life of three hours.
The “Believe Emily Rogers Specs” Tweet
To those asking me about Nintendo Switch specs check out Emily Roberts reports. She’s bang on the money.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
I have run Emily Rogers’ Switch Specs by Sources A (Nintendo), B (Ubisoft) and C (Indie). All three say that the information is accurate to at least one set of development hardware. Source A (Nintendo) suggested they were final hardware retail specs.
Trust Emily Rogers on hardware info, she’s got rock solid sources on the tech and power of this device.
The “More info before investor call” Tweet
Source A (Nintendo) told me that the price, release dates for regions, launch software and spec press releases are essentially ready for release. They did not know for certain, but they suspected that information would release before the upcoming October investor call.
Expect price, date, specs and specific games expanded on by the end of the month investor call.
— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016
This was later denied by Nintendo. I believe their official statement on this matter that they are holding further info for January.
Nintendo: no more official announcement would come this year on 1) game titles 2) spec details, including region-lock status.
— Takashi Mochizuki (@mochi_wsj) October 21, 2016
So, there you have it, that’s the whole story of my involvement in the NX leaks running up to the Switch reveal. Hope this helps folk have faith in my reports going forward, and offers some understanding into how these kinds of reporting happen.

作者: 玉 时间: 2016-10-23 22:34

posted by wap, platform: 小米红米
一句没看懂，所以没人转

作者: linchen0_0 时间: 2016-10-23 22:35

机翻如下：
今年8月份，我们玩视频游戏开始运行的一些报道和传闻的任天堂NX，后改名为任天堂开关。虽然我们的信息被证明是准确的，有些还没有被解决在三分钟的揭示系统的拖车。我们认为这将是一个完美的时间给一点额外的信息，这信息是从它的来源，这事情的准确与否，如为未经证实的传言和报道都有可能在未来几个月内证明属实。
让我们开始给予一点概述我们在助跑来源任天堂开关显示。我已经通过Emily Rogers（又名arcadegirl64）和记者的Tom Phillips，谁都有关于该系统的不同的泄漏，我们的来源不同。这些来源是独特的，我试图报告系统之前透露。
源–近源到任天堂内部的分工。将避免指定他们工作的能力，或在哪个区域。他们有一个体面的生产意识，零售硬件，开发硬件和营销计划。
源B–源在育碧工作室发展密切。这并不奇怪，考虑到我的一些报道有特定的信息关于育碧软件开发。他们主要意识到开发工具。
源代码–源连接到一个大型的独立开发者。
源D，连接到一个制造合作伙伴的源。
源戊型-一个来源，帮助我泄漏，直到黎明：急于血液前一个星期宣布回到2015。
我也在的地方，Tom Phillips和Emily Rogers商量，看看他们的独立和不同来源听到类似的，矛盾的，或匹配的信息。这是特别有用的工作时，新的来源。
充实我的来源在这里的原因是，我可以明确的信息是从它的来源，为什么它可能是准确的，而且我有可能滑落在试图对系统报告。
宣布“NX揭示明天”正式公布之前
如果你在等待官方NX揭示其看起来明天（星期四美国时间）可能最终会大日子从我所听到的。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月19日
在发现# NX第一。看预告片7点PT / 10am等！pic.twitter.com/r2qtzjyluo
任天堂美国（@NintendoAmerica）2016年10月20日
这是一个超级的最后一分钟的消息给我。
我发现NX /开关显示视频来了大约1个小时才被正式公布，并在推特上它二十分钟后（40分钟前官方公告）。此信息来自源（任天堂）并支持由其他可靠的来源。
在这个信息给了我一个破旧的大概是在拖车的期待，但我也找不出第二个来源，无论是直接或从另一个人的来源，证实。尽可能多的我信任源A，我不想冒险运行这个信息，而没有双采购它。
我告诉NX的揭示将长三分钟（任天堂后来证实），它最初将集中展示泽尔达：野性的气息，运行，它将重点展示设备的混合性质，将再次推出一个月，但没有日期或价格。
预计NX的官方名字透露明天，除了设备的外观。不发射线。泽尔达BOTW NX所示。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
源A告诉我，他们没有看到拖车，但已经向他们描述。因此，我很小心，不把它作为福音。
源码一个还告诉我的开关名称。我没有跑，因为我的信息只有一个单一的来源，但我的确花了接下来的24小时内搜索域重定向，商标或引用访谈名称开关，但什么也没发现。事实上我无法找到确凿的证据是我之所以提到听到一个名字，但为什么我不愿意将它公开分享的时候。我没有，但是，确认它不是使用Wii的名字。
不使用Wii线品牌。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
不要指望NX硬件规格细节明天。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
拖车将三分钟集中在它看起来像，是，做和被称为。信息的其余部分将在以后。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
我已经从一个单一的来源听到所谓的NX的名字。没有第二个来源，没有足够的信心来分享它。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
我知道这是很容易让我现在说，但开关是我听到的名字在宣布前浮动。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
单源，没有注册的网站注册/商标，我没有足够的信心来运行它。感到有信心我做了正确的事。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
源（任天堂）也告诉我，拖车将揭示墨盒系统的使用而不是盘。在这我很有信心，因为它排队源B信息（育碧）。
明天的3分钟预告片将确认墨盒NX使用。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
有些人问我为什么，如果这是一个混合，任天堂称，它在他们的公告一家系统。我有一个现成的答案。
家用控制台的品牌是，所以它被认为是一个便携式家用控制台不是一个手持电视播放第一。
Laura Kate Dale（@ laurakbuzz）2016年10月20日
虽然我曾与源数个月的NX的谣言，这一刻，我开始有了真正的，内心深处的信心，他们知道他们的狗屎。
“NX特征PS4风格的分裂方向键和分享按钮”的报告
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虽然上面的图片可能看起来有点傻，当我们在8月下旬发布它，它最终变成了一个非常准确的形象的零售系统。图片由源B（育碧），提供基于硬件开发、功能匹配的最终的硬件布局。上述开发工具绘制正确显示NX有偏枝（相对于Eurogamer的图像显示都坚持在顶部），以及家里的粗定位，（我相信）分享按钮。
它没有揭示的小+和-按钮的顶部可拆卸控制器。我已被告知，这些是不存在于早期开发的硬件。
而左边开关从矩形圈匹配右边的字母按钮的形状的按钮，我的消息来源正确识别他们将个人的按钮，而不是一个分离的控制器作为揭示预告片显示方向。
我确认图像精度经过附加源谁确认它没有任何信息，他们意识到冲突，以及源（任天堂）。它也被证实源C（独立）。
虽然“共享”按钮，我报告的是目前在控制器上，在显示拖车，它不具有相机图标。我仍然相信，它是一个共享按钮，在同样的意义上，我最初报道。我仍然相信，它将“允许上传图片和视频的直接信息，推特，脸谱网和YouTube。它也将有可能保存图像或视频到外部存储器设备，更容易转移到PC.“
那份报告。我们证明在坚持正确方向偏移，拆分按钮，左边的喜悦控制器一个额外的按钮的位置。我仍然相信我的消息来源说，按钮是为了方便分享媒体。
“NX手持的尺寸，布局信息，缺乏区域锁”的报告
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是的，不想说谎，我们失去了一点的时候，这个报告在八月。时间的乐趣的透明度。
因此，这里提供的尺寸和图由源F！
源F，没有提到在开始时，被证明是不准确的和不可靠的。他们是一个新的来源，谁达到了我们有关的尺寸和控制台的细节。他们提供虚假证据他们出版工作在一个2017 NX的游戏工作。我们未能彻底地审查这一新的来源。有检查，我可以做，并没有花时间做。
我跑过去的图像源D（制造）的人告诉我，“是的，看起来对我的权利”。他们当时无法检查细节，我没有按他们的。我愚蠢地采取了他们的模糊的反应，足够考虑图表证实。那是我的一个错误。
很快就发现，该源是不准确的，我们更新了我们的报告后，以反映。我们用一个模糊的评论从验证源从一个新的来源，而不是审查他们正确信息的确认。他们从以前的谣言拼凑起来的职位信息和教育的合理的猜测。我不会转发的信息在这里，我没有理由相信它是正确的。
然而!
在这份报告中，我们还提到了“开关”是区域免费的。

作者: zhangchiz 时间: 2016-10-23 22:52

posted by wap, platform: Galaxy S6 EDGE+
啥玩意

作者: 首斩破沙罗 时间: 2016-10-23 23:33

勉强看了一下机翻，好像也没有什么之前没有提到的爆料啊，楼主这么激动干嘛，这么一个全是废话的新闻TGFC不转怎么了？

作者: nikito 时间: 2016-10-23 23:35

posted by wap, platform: iPhone
没一个观点没被讨论过吧

作者: alucardx2004 时间: 2016-10-23 23:38

posted by wap, platform: Galaxy S6 EDGE+
这个逼装的我给负分

作者: 取暖的刺猬 时间: 2016-10-24 00:08

posted by wap, platform: iPhone
喷了，你自己看过这说的是什么么

作者: aironline 时间: 2016-10-24 00:13

posted by wap, platform: Android
在这份报告中，我们还提到了“开关”是区域免费的。

不锁区？

作者: 28210442 时间: 2016-10-24 01:36

posted by wap, platform: 酷派大神F1
你这种转了和没转一样。

作者: GYNECOMASTiA 时间: 2016-10-24 05:14

posted by wap, platform: iPhone
机翻纯属浪费流量。

作者: Gilgamesh 时间: 2016-10-24 05:55

简单翻译如下：

爆料者Laura Dale，他有5个主要信息来源：
来源 A：任天堂内部员工
来源 B：UBI内部员工
来源 C：一个知名的独立游戏开发者
来源 D：一个上游生产厂的合作伙伴
来源 E：一个在2015年帮助他成功提前一周泄露直到黎明VR版的线人

这5个来源泄露的大部分消息都经过多次验证，最后和发布的信息吻合，并且互相之间也有印证，所以爆料者相信，他们泄露的其他消息也是可信的，至少现阶段确实如此。他给了挺多例子了，我就不一一列举了（比如手柄分离方案，产品草图，分离式十字键等，都被之后一一印证）。

然后官方尚未公布的，但爆料者确信现阶段可信的消息：
1、可拆卸的手柄支持体感和力反馈
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2、为了超越善恶，任天堂确实和育碧有过实质的接触，游戏可能还没正式开发，但游戏的题材和方向已经经过了多次讨论

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3、网上泄露的NX开发套件图片为假（来源AB共同确认）

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4、屏幕可触控

5、DOCK可以增强性能表现
来源A、B、D都证实插上DOCK后，NS的性能表现有提升。
但目前并不确认是通过提升频率、还是有独立硬件（GPU或者类似PSVR那样插针）来提升性能表现，只知道插上后才是满血状态，掌机模式的性能有下滑。
任天堂虽然说了DOCK不是主体，但多次用到了“Main”这个词，给自己留了很大的余地。
they repeatedly use the words “main function” and “Main Console” here which still leaves a lot of room for clarity.

6、续航表现一般/续航3小时左右
来源A表示续航是中等水平，来源B说最多3个小时。

7、Emily Rogers的报道获得来源A和B的证实，具体如下：
1）定制的NV GPU
2）不锁区
3）6寸-6.2寸多点触控屏幕
4）分辨率720P
5）支持SD卡
6）支持USB 2.0和3.0
7）厚度14-15毫米
8）摄像头和麦克风没有内置在NS的主体内（可能会在DOCK/手柄中，只确定主体上没有）
9）风扇还是有点噪音
10）可拆卸手柄，支持体感，次世代震动技术（没细说具体是啥，好像是多级震动）
11）有分享/社交按键
12）性能低于PS4和XBOX ONE
13）支持UE4和Unity

作者: Gilgamesh 时间: 2016-10-24 05:56

一些推论：

1，假设ns的fp32是512Gflops(最保守的估计，使用x1为基准定制，如果使用x2为基准定制，则有可能达到750Gflops)
2，NV同浮点纸面数值下的实际性能是AMD的1.3倍，即等效于AMD的666Gflops
3，NS的分辨率为720P，是1080P的44%，也就是说在同等特效下，666Gflops+720P分辨率和1500Gflops+1080p分辨率的帧数相同
4，XBOX ONE的fp32是1311.5，ps4的fp32是1840

最后结论是，在相同特效下，ns运行游戏（运行在720P分辨率下）的帧数介于XBOX ONE 和PS4之间（这俩运行在1080P分辨率下）。

这也就意味着，对于第三方游戏，理论上，凡是能在ps4和xo上流畅运行的游戏，只需要把分辨率降低到720p，不需要牺牲任何特效，都能流畅运行在ns上。

不是相关行业的，胡乱算算，哪里不对楼下请修正。

作者: 我是我的马甲 时间: 2016-10-24 06:29

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还我流量。

作者: RISC 时间: 2016-10-24 10:12

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消息靠谱！要登录国际社交网络自然不能锁区。触摸和体感也是从上代主机自然延续。插上底座才是完全体，机能自然会比平板高。

作者: linchen0_0 时间: 2016-10-24 10:23

大家姿势不对，上论坛必须要用pc啊。包年不缺流量！

作者: RISC 时间: 2016-10-24 10:40

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消息靠谱！要登录国际社交网络自然不能锁区。触摸和体感也是从上代主机自然延续。插上底座才是完全体，机能自然会比平板高。

作者: oversleep 时间: 2016-10-24 10:47

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引用:

原帖由 @Gilgamesh 于 2016-10-24 05:56 发表
一些推论：

1，假设ns的fp32是512Gflops(最保守的估计，使用x1为基准定制，如果使用x2为基准定制，则有可能达到750Gflops)
2，NV同浮点纸面数值下的实际性能是AMD的1.3倍，即等效于AMD的666Gflops
3，NS的分辨率为720P，是1080P的44%，也就是说在同等特效下，666Gflops+720P分辨率和1500Gflops+1080p分辨率的帧数相同
4，XBOX ONE的fp32是1311.5，ps4的fp32是1840

最后结论是，在相同特效下，ns运行游戏（运行在720P分辨率下）的帧数介于XBOX ONE 和PS4之间（这俩运行在1080P分辨率下）。

这也就意味着，对于第三方游戏，理论上，凡是能在ps4和xo上流畅运行的游戏，只需要把分辨率降低到720p，不需要牺牲任何特效，都能流畅运行在ns上。

不是相关行业的，胡乱算算，哪里不对楼下请修正。

xb1很多游戏都是720p的

作者: lightling 时间: 2016-10-24 11:06

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引用:

原帖由 @Gilgamesh 于 2016-10-24 05:56 发表
一些推论：

1，假设ns的fp32是512Gflops(最保守的估计，使用x1为基准定制，如果使用x2为基准定制，则有可能达到750Gflops)
2，NV同浮点纸面数值下的实际性能是AMD的1.3倍，即等效于AMD的666Gflops
3，NS的分辨率为720P，是1080P的44%，也就是说在同等特效下，666Gflops+720P分辨率和1500Gflops+1080p分辨率的帧数相同
4，XBOX ONE的fp32是1311.5，ps4的fp32是1840

最后结论是，在相同特效下，ns运行游戏（运行在720P分辨率下）的帧数介于XBOX ONE 和PS4之间（这俩运行在1080P分辨率下）。

这也就意味着，对于第三方游戏，理论上，凡是能在ps4和xo上流畅运行的游戏，只需要把分辨率降低到720p，不需要牺牲任何特效，都能流畅运行在ns上。

不是相关行业的，胡乱算算，哪里不对楼下请修正。

游戏的最终帧数不是和Gflop成正比的，比如PS4到PS4PRO从1.84提升到了4.2，但是索尼自己的目标也只是把原来30帧的游戏提升到45帧。

而且掌机还得考虑散热和功耗问题，比如PSV的GPU，理论可以到400MHZ实际只有166MHZ

作者: Gilgamesh 时间: 2016-10-24 11:29

引用:

原帖由 lightling 于 2016-10-24 11:06 发表
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游戏的最终帧数不是和Gflop成正比的，比如PS4到PS4PRO从1.84提升到了4.2，但是索尼自己的目标也只是把原来30帧的游戏提升到45帧。

而且掌机还得考虑散热和功耗问题，比如PSV的 ...

那是因为pro的gpu提升了，但cpu没有相应提升。
而cpu部分，ns是明显比ps4和xo还强的。
至于掌机的发热控制，要看实际的情况，目前只说理论上，有这样的移植可能。

作者: jmmouse 时间: 2016-10-24 11:29

引用:

原帖由 Gilgamesh 于 2016-10-24 05:55 发表
简单翻译如下：

爆料者Laura Dale，他有5个主要信息来源：
来源 A：任天堂内部员工
来源 B：UBI内部员工
来源 C：一个知名的独立游戏开发者
来源 D：一个上游生产厂的合作伙伴
来源 E：一个在2015年帮助他成 ...

感谢翻译。
除了续航，其他都不错。坐等更多细节公布。

作者: RISC 时间: 2016-10-24 12:22

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消息靠谱！要登录国际社交网络自然不能锁区。触摸和体感也是从上代主机自然延续。插上底座才是完全体，机能自然会比平板高。

作者: wangduo_jojo 时间: 2016-10-24 12:42

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续航3h有点差，能多2小时就完美了。

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