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作者: npx 时间: 2016-6-14 11:31 标题: 炸裂！缩小版 XBOX ONE S 机能也得到强化，游戏将会有更稳定的帧数和高分辨率！

本来没什么兴趣的，现在想买了，毕竟还能放4K蓝光

http://www.polygon.com/2016/6/13 ... performance-gears-4

Games can perform better on Xbox One S

Better frame rates and higher resolution are possible on Microsoft's slimmer console

Gears of War 4 will perform better on the Xbox One S than it does on the Xbox One that released in 2013.

While Microsoft was quick to tout 4K video support and upscaling for the new version of the Xbox One announced at this year's E3 and available in August, the company also announced support for high dynamic range color on the console. While that in and of itself will provide subtle visual improvements to Gears of War 4 — The Coalition studio head Rod Fergusson talks in particular about improved surface detail on things like metal and armor — it will also provide a more consistent level of technical performance as well, Fergusson told Polygon in an interview following Microsoft's press briefing today.

Gears of War 4 employs a dynamic resolution system that tweaks the game's rendering resolution in both single-player and multiplayer to maintain its target frame rate in each mode (30 frames per second and 60 fps, respectively). According to Fergusson, the Xbox One S has additional raw GPU and CPU power compared to the Xbox One, and The Coalition's engineers have been able to take advantage of that to reduce the frequency of frame rate or resolution penalties in more demanding sections of the game.

While Gears 4 will take immediate advantage of the Xbox One S, that change does not automatically ensure a native 4K version of the game is ready for the newly announced Project Scorpio, Microsoft's 6 teraflop console upgrade currently slated for release in holiday 2017.

"We have to look at what the engine can do with the power that Scorpio has," said Fergusson. "Because we're mastering at 4K, it's not about assets or art. It's about getting the milliseconds down in terms of getting the game to 4K at 60 or 30 [fps] depending on single-player or multiplayer."

The Xbox One S will debut in August. Gears of War 4 will launch with Xbox One S specific support on Oct. 11, 2016. For more on the Xbox One S, check out the video below.

[ 本帖最后由 npx 于 2016-6-14 11:36 编辑 ]

作者: jun4rui 时间: 2016-6-14 11:34

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这都是废话，升级了显卡、CPU、内存，帧率分辨率不提高才怪了。

关键是看价格，还有隔壁PS3.5怎么样，还有市场策略，别再脑残了

作者: npx 时间: 2016-6-14 11:35

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原帖由 jun4rui 于 2016-6-14 11:34 发表
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这都是废话，升级了显卡、CPU、内存，帧率分辨率不提高才怪了。

关键是看价格，还有隔壁PS3.5怎么样，还有市场策略，别再脑残了

是XBOX ONE S 不是天蝎，看清楚了。。。。

作者: npx 时间: 2016-6-14 12:15

啃奶接口被取消了

作者: 松鼠司机 时间: 2016-6-14 12:18

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那以前的旧游戏不用更新或者做点什么？直接提升帧数和分辨率？

作者: yfl2 时间: 2016-6-14 12:21

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原帖由 npx 于 2016-6-14 12:15 发表
啃奶接口被取消了

你确定，这...
我之前还在说是不是会取消hdmi in等机顶盒功能，这直接一刀砍掉kinect？？？？？？？

作者: 讴歌123 时间: 2016-6-14 12:24

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原帖由 @yfl2 于 2016-6-14 12:21 发表
你确定，这...
我之前还在说是不是会取消hdmi in等机顶盒功能，这直接一刀砍掉kinect？？？？？？？

没，微软会送个UBS转kinect的转接头

作者: ttk 时间: 2016-6-14 12:25

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索饭说了，没用。就等Ps4跑VR了。

作者: jeffcai 时间: 2016-6-14 12:25

都跨PC了，再说明年还有天蝎，这个slim有点尴尬

作者: loveMM 时间: 2016-6-14 12:26

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那天蝎要什么时候出

作者: rollpard 时间: 2016-6-14 12:29

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原帖由 @ttk 于 2016-6-14 12:25 发表
索饭说了，没用。就等Ps4跑VR了。

索饭都没跳出来，你倒是先跳出来了

作者: playerstation 时间: 2016-6-14 12:31

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原帖由 ttk 于 2016-6-14 12:25 发表
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索饭说了，没用。就等Ps4跑VR了。

大神说有用就是有用，谁反对谁就是不客观。

作者: grammyliu 时间: 2016-6-14 12:36

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原帖由 @jeffcai 于 2016-6-13 08:25 PM 发表
都跨PC了，再说明年还有天蝎，这个slim有点尴尬

有4K HDR电视的买来放蓝光都划算，三星的播放器卖$399呢。

作者: jeffcai 时间: 2016-6-14 12:54

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原帖由 grammyliu 于 2016-6-14 12:36 发表
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有4K HDR电视的买来放蓝光都划算，三星的播放器卖$399呢。

电脑不能放？

作者: shinkamui 时间: 2016-6-14 13:56

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原帖由 讴歌123 于 2016-6-14 12:24 发表
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没，微软会送个UBS转kinect的转接头

不知道这个接头能不能直接用在pc上，现在转pc的接头贵的离谱

作者: wangjiex1 时间: 2016-6-14 13:59

性价比非常高，要不是明年有天蝎，我就买了

作者: cgyldn 时间: 2016-6-14 14:04

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出了就买

作者: qxxqxx 时间: 2016-6-14 14:36

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都知道明年要出加强版现在还发这个s版到底是几个意思

作者: 春日野妹 时间: 2016-6-14 14:39

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原帖由 @wangjiex1 于 2016-6-14 13:59 发表
性价比非常高，要不是明年有天蝎，我就买了

你直接说你穷不就行了

作者: 模拟器高手 时间: 2016-6-14 14:40

4K片源都是问题，何况那OLED的价格太过凶残

作者: 灌水马甲 时间: 2016-6-14 14:44

喷了，以后游戏ｏｎｅ　９００ｐ，ｓｌｉｍ　１０８０ｐ，天蝎４ｋ？

作者: Veree 时间: 2016-6-14 14:46

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原帖由 npx 于 2016-6-14 12:15 发表
啃奶接口被取消了

usb接口通过适配器连接，对于老用户，提供新旧主机的序列号微软免费给

作者: tripx 时间: 2016-6-14 14:49

话说，天蟹能同时达到4K和60帧吗？我是说一流的3A

作者: wangjiex1 时间: 2016-6-14 14:51

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原帖由 春日野妹 于 2016-6-14 14:39 发表
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你直接说你穷不就行了

脑残粉到这地步你怎么不买100台PS4放家里供着呢，直接说你穷不就行了

作者: 南丫岛的龙猫 时间: 2016-6-14 14:53

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原帖由 灌水马甲 于 2016-6-14 14:44 发表
喷了，以后游戏ｏｎｅ　９００ｐ，ｓｌｉｍ　１０８０ｐ，天蝎４ｋ？

对的，就是这个意思

作者: cgyldn 时间: 2016-6-14 14:56

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原帖由 tripx 于 2016-6-14 14:49 发表
话说，天蟹能同时达到4K和60帧吗？我是说一流的3A

不能，机能还是不够

作者: 石指圣 时间: 2016-6-14 15:22

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王者之风，全新系列，任破索乱！

作者: Nemo_theCaptain 时间: 2016-6-14 15:23

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原帖由 灌水马甲 于 2016-6-14 14:44 发表
喷了，以后游戏ｏｎｅ　９００ｐ，ｓｌｉｍ　１０８０ｐ，天蝎４ｋ？

Slim的提升很可能就是把芯片原本太监掉的部分给恢复
所以距离天蝎的差距肯定远得很，否则天蝎就不用出了

作者: tripx 时间: 2016-6-14 15:25

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原帖由 cgyldn 于 2016-6-14 14:56 发表

不能，机能还是不够

喷了，提升那么多还是有限啊，那么顶多4K 30帧或者1080P，60帧了？

作者: grammyliu 时间: 2016-6-14 15:27

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原帖由 @jeffcai 于 2016-6-13 08:54 PM 发表
电脑不能放？

不能。

作者: yfl2 时间: 2016-6-14 15:28

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原帖由 @tripx 于 2016-6-14 15:25 发表
喷了，提升那么多还是有限啊，那么顶多4K 30帧或者1080P，60帧了？

提升也还好，毕竟要明年底发售，基本做到了ps4在2013年底的程度

作者: grammyliu 时间: 2016-6-14 15:28

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原帖由 @模拟器高手于 2016-6-13 10:40 PM 发表
4K片源都是问题，何况那OLED的价格太过凶残

现在片子市面上有几十部，每个月都有新的发售，FOX的电影现在出了就都是4K的。

作者: jamesxuyiyi 时间: 2016-6-14 15:29

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原帖由 讴歌123 于 2016-6-14 12:24 发表
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没，微软会送个UBS转kinect的转接头

转接头本来就有买的，PC开发用的。

作者: tripx 时间: 2016-6-14 15:49

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原帖由 yfl2 于 2016-6-14 15:28 发表
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提升也还好，毕竟要明年底发售，基本做到了ps4在2013年底的程度

然而PS4是正宗的换代机种，这东西是什么也没给定义，如果是换代机种，时间提前，好，可以接受，但作为换代机种这机能到时候肯定是太一般了吧？那边也问了，连4K 60帧同时实现都不可能，如果不作为换代机种而是升级机种，竟然允许有x1玩不到的游戏，时间要到2017年底才发售，又太慢了。

作者: 弟弟等等 时间: 2016-6-14 15:52

都宣布新主机了，谁还买老版的？
肯定买天蝎啊

作者: cgyldn 时间: 2016-6-14 15:53

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原帖由 tripx 于 2016-6-14 15:25 发表

喷了，提升那么多还是有限啊，那么顶多4K 30帧或者1080P，60帧了？

1080跑4K+60都吃力啊，何况这个
而且开发商对家用机更多是以画面为宣传重点吧

[ 本帖最后由 cgyldn 于 2016-6-14 15:54 编辑 ]

作者: wpxgod 时间: 2016-6-14 15:57

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原帖由 cgyldn 于 2016-6-14 15:53 发表

1080跑4K+60都吃力啊，何况这个
而且开发商对家用机更多是以画面为宣传重点吧

微软自己都说是4K+60了到明年底才出有什么不可能的而且这货定位是高价机

[ 本帖最后由 wpxgod 于 2016-6-14 15:58 编辑 ]

作者: 狗娃 时间: 2016-6-14 16:00

前提是你得有一台真4K大彩电~~~~~~~~~

作者: max39 时间: 2016-6-14 16:00

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高价机，到时候再标配天蝎版精英手柄，单独发售2000人民币233

作者: yfl2 时间: 2016-6-14 16:00

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原帖由 @wpxgod 于 2016-6-14 15:57 发表
微软自己都说是4K+60了到明年底才出有什么不可能的而且这货定位是高价机

不会吧，这硬件到明年底还高价机？微软这么说？我仿佛看到499的跳水再现

作者: wpxgod 时间: 2016-6-14 16:08

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原帖由 yfl2 于 2016-6-14 16:00 发表
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不会吧，这硬件到明年底还高价机？微软这么说？我仿佛看到499的跳水再现

你想一下1080到明年什么价就知道了肯定便宜不了真499也不贵了

作者: cgyldn 时间: 2016-6-14 16:10

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原帖由 wpxgod 于 2016-6-14 15:57 发表

微软自己都说是4K+60了到明年底才出有什么不可能的而且这货定位是高价机

如果微软对开发商有硬性规定那敢情好

作者: 1320581 时间: 2016-6-14 16:44

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原帖由 Nemo_theCaptain 于 2016-6-14 15:23 发表

Slim的提升很可能就是把芯片原本太监掉的部分给恢复
所以距离天蝎的差距肯定远得很，否则天蝎就不用出了

我也是想的，还是不如ps4

作者: yfl2 时间: 2016-6-14 16:46

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原帖由 @wpxgod 于 2016-6-14 16:08 发表
你想一下1080到明年什么价就知道了肯定便宜不了真499也不贵了

这个机器的性能有1080的6成就不错了

作者: yfl2 时间: 2016-6-15 14:13

Xbox One S won't give games a performance boost, Microsoft insists

Extra CPU, GPU power "will have no impact at all".

By Tom Phillips Published 15/06/2016

Xbox One games will look "identical" on Xbox One S, Microsoft has said, despite the newer console's slight boost in processing power.
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Speaking with Eurogamer today at E3, Xbox planning lead Albert Penello stated that the additional CPU and GPU access granted to developers for Xbox One S in order to enable HDR will have "literally no impact" on the performance of games.

"When we made changes to the box for 4K we unlocked a little bit more processing power to enable HDR. That's it. It's exactly the same architecture as the existing one," Penello told me during a presentation on the new console.

"To support HDR, we give people access to a little more CPU and GPU. That's it. It is so insignificant it is mind boggling it is being picked up."

Yesterday, a Polygon report claimed Gears of War 4 would perform better on Xbox One S, and that the newer console's raw processing power could be used to improve its frame-rate and resolution.

Some have speculated Xbox One would overclock its GPU and CPU, but Penello denied this.

When asked whether there would be any performance difference, Penello was clear:

"I promise, it won't even show up. It will have no impact on games at all. Literally no impact. They will be identical. It's nothing, it is literally nothing."

Eurogamer was told the same thing today by Xbox boss Phil Spencer, speaking with Wes.

"It was designed to play Xbox One games exactly the same way your existing Xbox One does," Spencer said. "The one definitive feature that's different is HDR. So, with the increased HDMI capability, it has the ability to support high dynamic range.

"I will say - and I've been asked about this - and I'm not trying to dodge the question, you should expect it to play your games the same way an Xbox One does. We did not design this to play Xbox One games better than the original Xbox One console."

Spencer did not count out some minor differences, which happen when things change with console innards.

"We've gone through - even on the existing hardware - multiple hardware iterations on the inside. There will be certain decisions that are made either for cost reasons or other supply chain reasons that can result in slightly different performance, whether it's disc drive throughput... everything's not always pegged at exactly the same number.

"But honestly, do not buy this box if you think you're buying it to play your Xbox One games better, because it was not designed to go do that. It was designed to play your Xbox One games exactly the way your Xbox One does.

"I don't want anybody to think this is somehow a performance boost for Xbox One games. That's why we said HDR on-screen, and that's what we want to be explicit about. Outside of that, you should expect your Xbox One games to run exactly the same."

While Xbox One S won't give games a significant performance boost, it can be used to improve visuals - specifically regarding High Dynamic Range. Gears of War 4, Scalebound and Forza Horizon 3 are all confirmed to benefit in some way.

微软神了，一天一变，又说不会改善帧数，主要是hdr

作者: 量产QUBELEY 时间: 2016-6-15 14:28

one是我买过的最恶心的主机，比三红还恶心

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