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作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-18 14:17 标题: GCWzero 这款retro机器快要出来了,看了视频,绝壁模拟神器-更新review

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http://www.gcw-zero.com/
SpecificationsCPU:
Ingenic JZ4770 1 GHz MIPS processor
GPU:
Vivante GC860, capable of OpenGL ES 2.0
Display:
3.5 inch LCD with 320x240 pixels; 4:3 aspect ratio is ideal for retro gaming

Operating system:
Linux 3.x (OpenDingux)
Memory:
512 MB DDR2
Internal storage:
16 GB, most of which is available for applications and data
External storage:
micro SDHC up to 32 GB or micro SDXC of 64 GB (SDXC cards must be reformatted before use)
Connectivity:
Mini USB 2.0 OTG
Mini HDMI 1.3 out
3.5 mm (mini jack) A/V port for earphone and analog TV-out
Audio:
Stereo speakers, mono microphone
Other:
Accelerometer (g-sensor) and vibration motors
Wireless:
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n 2.4 GHz, can connect to access point or direct device-to-device
Dimensions:
143 * 70 * 18 mm
Weight:
8 oz / 225 g
Battery:
2800 mAh
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INITIAL IMPRESSIONS AND REVIEW
(updates to be added sporadically)
Alright! So I promised zear some feedback, and here's where it's going to be.
Hardware
First I want to talk about the hardware, because this is the part that can't be changed. The software is going to be improved with time, but the hardware you get is what comes in the box. Luckily, everything looks quite solid. Build quality is excellent, and it looks like it will hold up quite well over the years.
The design is EXTREMELY reminiscent of earlier handhelds like the GP2X, and for some reason the old Sega GameGear (albeit 1/3 the size). The entire assembly is high quality plastic, and it has just enough weight that it feels substantial, not like a cheap toy. A lot of the time on devices this size the buttons can feel cramped (GP2X made it hard to properly play Mega Man X), but all the spacing on this particular handheld is very good. Everything just feels RIGHT in hand.
My only complaint on this part is that the tolerances in the controls are extremely tight. The d-pad in particular is difficult to work fluidly, and on occasion gets stuck in the down position. You can already see the rub points on the plastic, so my guess is that it will loosen up nicely after some hard use. The buttons and analog nub suffer from this as well, but once again I think it just needs some time to loosen up. If it bothered you enough and you were impatient, you could probably file down the plastic so it opened up some space. (EDIT: I guess GCW is discouraging this as it would void the warranty. If it doesn't loosen up over time, get a replacement under warranty.)
Oh, one other thing I want to mention about the d-pad: In pictures, it looks like a circle pad like the Sega Saturn and Genesis used. It is NOT, the circle is just recessed plastic, and the d-pad is classic Nintendo-style. It may or may not make much of a difference to you, but I figured I would mention it because it surprised me a little.
The screen is bright and clear! I was a little worried when I first opened up the box, because the screen almost instantly developed scratches. However, it turns out there was a second screen protector, and upon taking that off the actual plastic seems to be quite hard (although prone to fingerprints and dust).
Let me just say that it is REALLY nice to have things like TV-out built in, especially considering it has options for HDMI and regular old component cables. I didn't test it, and if I recall correctly it's not ready yet anyways.
What else... Volume gets plenty loud. I wish there were physical volume controls, but the solution that was used isn't horrible, just confusing until you figure it out. I'm a bit of an audiophile, but I haven't listened to any music with my headphones yet (will DEFINITELY update on this at some point). I also wish USB was detected as a simple mass storage device as opposed to this goofy thing with FTP. Maybe there's some legitimate reason for it, but to the simple user the simplest solution would have been preferred. There's nothing super unusual other than what I mentioned; it's a well built device.
Software
The OS is very light and responsive! Boot up time is FAST, especially comparing it to my old GP2X; I'd say about a second or two and it's ready. GMenu2X is a fairly simple solution to use for the GUI, and for a device like this it works rather well. I'll definitely be attempting to recreate the old Windows 3.1 theme that's on my GP2X. It would be nice to have a clock somewhere on the top or bottom, but I guess it's not so crucial since you won't be spending a whole lot of time lounging on this screen.
The included games are (for the most part) RUTHLESS. No hand-holding smartphone games here! For the most part everything plays quite well, it's just hard. Some people will like this, some people might wish for a more easygoing experience. I have to say my favorite so far is the preview of Unnamed Monkey Game. Do yourself a favor and download Cave Story, especially if you've never played it. In my opinion one of the greatest "indie" games ever made, and before indie was really a thing.
I did download some emulators already, and they definitely need some polish. PicoDrive (Genesis/Sega CD) is in good shape already (aside from some screen tearing in stretched mode), but I couldn't find the scaling options in PocketSNES, and gpSP (GBA) wouldn't even run (trying to play Yu-Gi-Oh! Worldwide Edition). Expect lots of progress on these as time goes on. PSX isn't ready yet I guess, and N64 is still a thought in someone's mind. For some reason higher quality audio wasn't working through the speakers... I'm hoping this is just a software issue, or at least that it will work through the headphone jack.
The thing I will point out here is the major drawback of the homebrew scene. Namely, the fact that there's very little consistency between apps for menus, system functions, how to exit, etc. You open up one of the emulators, and the first thing it does is ask for a ROM; you open up another, and it has a start menu, and you can hardly even FIND the ROMs. I think it would be an excellent idea if a few people got together and made a list of recommended guidelines for how different apps function, just so there isn't a learning curve every time a new one is made.
Final Initial Thoughts
There is a lot of potential here, and the past seems to indicate that a lot of that potential will be fulfilled. Devices like this seem to attract talented programmers, and that's all it needs at this point. Expect a lot of surprises going forward, and people appearing out of nowhere to release great games and emulators that no one was expecting.
All that being said, there are a couple specific things that could use some work, and will really improve the device overall.
-more consistency between apps, probably through some general programming guidelines
-general polish and final touches in things like emulators
-an informative file database somewhere online; Google Docs is okay for right this second, but something like OpenHandhelds.org would be really ideal (or even something similar on the official GCW website)
-more programmers, more apps, keep it coming!
Everything's looking good so far, and if you're still waiting it won't be much longer! Units are still shipping out as I write this, and as more people get it, many of them will have the aptitude to program for and expand the platform.
Thanks for reading, and I hope you get yours soon!

UPDATE 1!

I took some time to test the sound capabilities using GMU. My first hurdle was realizing that it didn't have support built in for mp3 since it's not a free codec. It's only a matter of time before someone else writes another player that has full codec support, and I doubt it will take long. Luckily, I did have some FLAC and OGG files to test out. I wasn't expecting too much, so I'm not terribly disappointed. Sound is actually quite good coming through the speakers, and as I said before it can get plenty loud. I tested the headphone jack with my Ultrasone Signature Pro headphones, and for the most part the sound is passable. There is plenty of volume, but there is some background hiss noticeable. johnnyonflame says he will inform the hardware people to see if this is fixable, as it might be poor isolation between the sound components and the rest of the board (which is definitely what it sounds like to me). It's also possible that it could be a software issue with GMU or even ALSA (the thing that manages all sound for the entire system). Either way, it's really not too terrible, and actually sounds pretty darned good with PicoDrive. I honestly doubt most people will notice what I did, because my ears are spoiled and I was specifically listening for it. There are some sporadic pops when going through menus as well. Considering my GP2X randomly changes the left and right ears whenever it feels like, I think this is a pretty solid platform so far.

qbertaddict was kind enough to hook me up with many of the newer versions of emulators, and I did some more testing using a couple different options. snes9x4d definitely has better scaling options than PocketSNES (read: any at all), but it struggled a bit more with transparencies, and sound is absolutely horrendous (at least in Mega Man X; every charge shot I let off sounds like a cat is dying). Put some scaling options in PocketSNES and for 99% of my games I'll be happy. PicoDrive is still extremely solid. The original author, notaz, really put some love into it, and it still shows after all these years. Maybe if we ask nicely he'll come by and polish it back up. The new version that I received was supposed to have working VSync, but I'm definitely still getting some screen tearing. I should also note that in all of these, sound will not work properly at 44.1 khz. It's not exactly that important for chiptunes, but perhaps it's related to some of the other sound issues. I finally got gpSP working (didn't realize you needed a BIOS), but sound was crackly. Also, the scaling options are original GBA (which is in a tiny box), or fullscreen (which stretches the aspect ratio). I haven't tried anything else tonight, and I most likely won't since I have work tomorrow.

My original impression stands that the software definitely needs quite a bit of polishing yet. Someone on chat (johnnyonflame?) was saying that the sound drivers were one of those things that would need to be completely rewritten to be at 100% compatibility. Don't get me wrong, everything is WORKING to some degree, just expect some glitches and little things to persist for a while. But the good news is that it's only a matter of time until it all gets ironed out.

本帖最后由强棒奶娃于 2013-6-7 14:17 通过手机版编辑

作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-18 14:20

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTAxMDkzMTcy.html

作者: difuno 时间: 2013-5-18 14:39

怀旧的话这部机器的确是很好了

作者: dwb 时间: 2013-5-18 15:30

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按键的质感不错，有掌机的感觉

作者: jinny 时间: 2013-5-18 15:51

对于现在来说，3.5实在是太小了

作者: difuno 时间: 2013-5-18 16:11

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原帖由 jinny 于 2013-5-18 15:51 发表
对于现在来说，3.5实在是太小了

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玩模拟器怀旧的话不需要太大的屏幕，分辨率高了也是没用。机器太大不便携，这个GCW的形状外观跟GA330差不多吧，只是性能和软件支持要高了不少，的确是怀旧利器啊

作者: can201 时间: 2013-5-18 16:12

看配置，看造型，看机能，看系统

感觉就是A320的升级再生版

作者: OpEth 时间: 2013-5-18 16:22

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按键形状非常满意，希望手感能好。。。。。

2800电池很给力，感觉hdmi没什么必要。。。。

作者: 红叶 时间: 2013-5-18 16:29

cpu ，内存硬伤啊，模拟ps估计都吃力

作者: cc_cc_bear 时间: 2013-5-18 16:30

话说这机器买多少钱呢，另外国内能买到么...

作者: OpEth 时间: 2013-5-18 16:34

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原帖由 @红叶于 2013-5-18 16:29 发表
cpu ，内存硬伤啊，模拟ps估计都吃力

模拟ps没有必要，psp已经很好的完成这个工作了，这机器能模拟好sfc就已经算是不辱使命了。。。。。

作者: 古兰佐 时间: 2013-5-18 16:34

HOW MUCH啊

作者: difuno 时间: 2013-5-18 16:44

引用:

原帖由 can201 于 2013-5-18 16:12 发表
看配置，看造型，看机能，看系统

感觉就是A320的升级再生版

本来就是因为A320的性能跟不上，才出现这个机器的啊，玩家为了玩家而生产的游戏机，这就是他们的说法。

作者: difuno 时间: 2013-5-18 16:46

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原帖由红叶于 2013-5-18 16:29 发表
cpu ，内存硬伤啊，模拟ps估计都吃力

也不一定，这个跑的是OPEN-DINGUX，对硬件的要求没那么高，A320那么低的主频，32M的内存，关掉声音有些PS游戏都勉强可以玩了，这个的硬件已经好很多了。

作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-18 16:49

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原帖由 古兰佐 于 2013-5-18 16:34 发表
HOW MUCH啊

116,81
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-18 16:50

116,81 欧
152.4美刀
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-18 16:52

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原帖由红叶于 2013-5-18 16:29 发表
cpu ，内存硬伤啊，模拟ps估计都吃力
有半年前发布的模拟ps视频，那时候貌似正在优化。

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDY5MjU4Mzcy.html
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-18 16:55

另外，官方定位：The GCW-Zero is a portable gaming device designed for playing retro games — basically anything up until the era of the original PlayStation.
作者: cnmbanzhu 时间: 2013-5-18 17:30

这掌机的A，B键是不是装反了？另外啥时候发售？
作者: OpEth 时间: 2013-5-18 20:30

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原帖由 @cnmbanzhu  于 2013-5-18 17:30 发表
这掌机的A，B键是不是装反了？另外啥时候发售？
从这机器的定位来看，AB键倒是没装反，XY键却装反了。。。。。
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-18 21:03

http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw ... 8i7bor02qis2q8o4mn2

论坛如火如荼啊，这东西好期待。
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-5-18 21:09

LZ 别高兴了据液内说这个机器已经被深圳代工厂给坑死了能不能拿到货还是问题
作者: OpEth 时间: 2013-5-18 22:13

引用:
原帖由 gl434 于 2013-5-18 21:09 发表
LZ 别高兴了据液内说这个机器已经被深圳代工厂给坑死了能不能拿到货还是问题
能否详细说说。。。。。
作者: biorobot 时间: 2013-5-18 22:28

期待下~~~~~~~~~~··
作者: SONIC3D 时间: 2013-5-18 23:24

这价格喷了，有这价格不会去搞个全新Xperia Play，还能打电话当3G路由器？

目测液晶延迟严重，不排除是拍摄原因造成。
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-5-18 23:36

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原帖由 gl434 于 2013-5-18 21:09 发表
LZ 别高兴了据液内说这个机器已经被深圳代工厂给坑死了能不能拿到货还是问题
没记错的话当年PANDORA开始的时候也是给中国的工厂坑过？
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-5-18 23:50

大概就是说GCW的公司通过kickstarter筹资然后给了代工厂代工厂拿这些钱做别的了一台机器也没生产而且本身系统的bug就多然后就呵呵结合目前官方撤销预定订单在blog上各种推脱说辞的确像是真的

哈哈这会是kickstarter上明星项目的笑柄么！！！！！
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-5-18 23:56

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原帖由 difuno 于 2013-5-18 23:36 发表

没记错的话当年PANDORA开始的时候也是给中国的工厂坑过？
主板液晶屏被坑了2年德国佬觉悟了加价也要找好厂子于是就涨价了
作者: clarkh 时间: 2013-5-19 00:27

引用:
原帖由 gl434 于 2013-5-18 23:50 发表
大概就是说GCW的公司通过kickstarter筹资然后给了代工厂代工厂拿这些钱做别的了一台机器也没生产而且本身系统的bug就多然后就呵呵结合目前官方撤销预定订单在blog上各种推脱说辞的确像是真的

哈哈这会是 ...
实话实说，系统是open的，硬件是国产的，那整合方案山寨厂随便谁都能做，GCW除了出个外观设计也没做啥。
作者: OpEth 时间: 2013-5-19 01:30

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原帖由 @gl434  于 2013-5-18 23:50 发表
大概就是说GCW的公司通过kickstarter筹资然后给了代工厂代工厂拿这些钱做别的了一台机器也没生产而且本身系统的bug就多然后就呵呵结合目前官方撤销预定订单在blog上各种推脱说辞的确像是真的

哈哈这会是 ...
喷了。。。。。
作者: shinyoyo 时间: 2013-5-19 19:50

mips 的 Cpu?这兼容性行吗？
作者: Totall 时间: 2013-5-20 09:57

这东西出不来了！
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-5-23 09:26

http://obscurehandhelds.com/?p=2104

似乎还是发货了呵呵可喜可贺新版OD也上线了可惜这400台不够分
作者: OpEth 时间: 2013-5-23 09:47

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原帖由 @gl434  于 2013-5-23 09:26 发表
http://obscurehandhelds.com/?p=2104

似乎还是发货了呵呵可喜可贺新版OD也上线了可惜这400台不够分
怎么买啊？
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-5-23 10:21

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原帖由 OpEth 于 2013-5-23 09:47 发表
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怎么买啊？
http://ithic.com/en/gcw-zero/67-gcw-zero.html
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-23 10:31

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原帖由 gl434 于 2013-5-23 10:21 发表

 http://ithic.com/en/gcw-zero/67-gcw-zero.html
汗，竟然没了
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-23 10:33

THIS PRODUCT IS NO LONGER IN STOCK

坐等后续，怎么也得生产几十万台吧

对了这机子cpu是国产龙芯，神了啊！！！！
作者: OpEth 时间: 2013-5-23 10:56

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话说这里有人买到了么？到时候一定要上评测啊。。。。。
作者: BOUNCER 时间: 2013-5-23 10:58

有代购的话有兴趣啊
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-5-23 11:05

引用:
原帖由 强棒奶娃 于 2013-5-23 10:33 发表
THIS PRODUCT IS NO LONGER IN STOCK

坐等后续，怎么也得生产几十万台吧

对了这机子cpu是国产龙芯，神了啊！！！！
所有用Dingux&openDingux的机器都是君正的方案
作者: zhqing 时间: 2013-5-23 14:34

这价钱也太坑了吧，500还差不多。
作者: solaris7i 时间: 2013-5-24 21:36

　　　　　　　
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-5-24 21:41

深圳代工啊，不知道弄的出来吗？
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-5-24 22:58

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原帖由 okiyo 于 2013-5-24 22:00 发表
320x240 pixels,这么低的分辨率，同屏能显示多少东西啊才，难道又要像fc时代那样玩看不清人脸的游戏啊，这种分辨率怎么能模拟ps2级别以上的游戏
这机器本来就不是用来模拟PS2以后的游戏的，只到PS为止。
作者: clarkh 时间: 2013-5-24 23:15

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原帖由 okiyo 于 2013-5-24 22:00 发表
320x240 pixels,这么低的分辨率，同屏能显示多少东西啊才，难道又要像fc时代那样玩看不清人脸的游戏啊，这种分辨率怎么能模拟ps2级别以上的游戏
做梦呢吧，除了PC现在有哪个掌机敢模拟PS2的
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-5-24 23:17

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原帖由 clarkh 于 2013-5-24 23:15 发表

做梦呢吧，除了PC现在有哪个掌机敢模拟PS2的
PSP能够玩PS，理论上PSV可以玩PS2不？
作者: 曾经在林中的狼 时间: 2013-5-25 00:25

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原帖由 difuno 于 2013-5-18 16:44 发表

本来就是因为A320的性能跟不上，才出现这个机器的啊，玩家为了玩家而生产的游戏机，这就是他们的说法。
肯定是任饭！没打算模拟PS2！

[ 本帖最后由曾经在林中的狼于 2013-5-25 00:35 编辑 ]
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-5-25 01:12

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原帖由 曾经在林中的狼 于 2013-5-25 00:25 发表

肯定是任饭！没打算模拟PS2！
当前真的有掌机的硬件能模拟PS2？PSV？SHIELD？还是什么？
作者: asdforce 时间: 2013-5-26 00:12

MIPS.....LZ知道这个是什么东西吗？这个不是ARM哦～
你准备好自己编译东西吧。。。。
目前最好选择是nvidia的 shield, 就是贵，其他完美了。

[ 本帖最后由 asdforce 于 2013-5-26 00:13 编辑 ]
作者: bsseven 时间: 2013-5-26 05:54

要我说，PSP模拟PS都不及格，分辨率不达标
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-5-26 12:02

作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-6-7 10:15

还没测评啊
作者: Ander 时间: 2013-6-7 10:24

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原帖由 gl434 于 2013-5-18 21:09 发表
LZ 别高兴了据液内说这个机器已经被深圳代工厂给坑死了能不能拿到货还是问题
能否找到渠道作为TG福利发了？
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-6-7 10:49

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原帖由 Ander 于 2013-6-7 10:24 发表

能否找到渠道作为TG福利发了？
我先找找看能否拿到机器而且价格还不确定这种东西你懂得保修什么的基本可以忽略不计所以 .... 我自己也不抱什么希望
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-6-7 10:54

引用:
原帖由 gl434 于 2013-6-7 10:49 发表

我先找找看能否拿到机器而且价格还不确定这种东西你懂得保修什么的基本可以忽略不计所以 .... 我自己也不抱什么希望
价格已经有了哦，179USD含ups米国加拿大包邮。
国内不知道152拿得下吗？当时说指导价是152.
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-6-7 10:59

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原帖由 强棒奶娃 于 2013-6-7 10:54 发表

价格已经有了哦，179USD含ups米国加拿大包邮。
国内不知道152拿得下吗？当时说指导价是152.
直接从工厂拿货后果大概就是坏了自认吃瘪....
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-6-7 11:02

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原帖由 gl434 于 2013-6-7 10:59 发表

直接从工厂拿货后果大概就是坏了自认吃瘪....
海淘也这样吧?如果坏了再寄回去太折腾。
如果工厂不故意给次品的话，我愿意买一个。
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-6-7 11:08

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原帖由 强棒奶娃 于 2013-6-7 11:02 发表

海淘也这样吧?如果坏了再寄回去太折腾。
如果工厂不故意给次品的话，我愿意买一个。
等我问到价格和数量了再说吧这东西国外还没铺货所以短期内不会有什么专用的模拟器开发出来传闻中的app商店也不知道能有没有呵呵估计包装都没有
作者: madobenanami 时间: 2013-6-7 11:12

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原帖由 @difuno  于 2013-5-24 23:17 发表
PSP能够玩PS，理论上PSV可以玩PS2不？
几乎不可能的，别想了
连mgshd都只有408p的
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-6-7 12:51

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原帖由 gl434 于 2013-6-7 11:08 发表

等我问到价格和数量了再说吧这东西国外还没铺货所以短期内不会有什么专用的模拟器开发出来传闻中的app商店也不知道能有没有呵呵估计包装都没有
问到了算我一个哦:D
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-6-7 12:52

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原帖由 madobenanami 于 2013-6-7 11:12 发表
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几乎不可能的，别想了
连mgshd都只有408p的
希望在明天嘛
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-6-7 13:36

psp在pc上也开发模拟了好久结果猴版横空出世现在也有模有样
作者: hjj07809092 时间: 2013-6-7 13:57

我觉的很棒啊···
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-6-7 14:19

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更新了老外写的业余review，谁帮翻下。
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-6-7 14:35

这篇文章好长啊，大致的问题都是软件的问题了，这些是可以随着时间的推移改进的。可能最让人担心的就是硬件的问题了，D-PAD好象有点过硬，下方向有时候会卡住？还有就是那个用耳机听到的滋滋的声音（电流声）？
作者: 强棒奶娃 时间: 2013-6-7 14:49

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原帖由 @difuno  于 2013-6-7 14:35 发表
这篇文章好长啊，大致的问题都是软件的问题了，这些是可以随着时间的推移改进的。可能最让人担心的就是硬件的问题了，DPAD好象有点过硬，下方向有时候会卡住？还有就是那个用耳机听到的滋滋的声音（电流声）？
The d-pad in particular is difficult to work fluidly, and on occasion gets stuck in the down position. You can already see the rub points on the plastic, so my guess is that it will loosen up nicely after some hard use.

希望他说的是真的，要是玩不松就麻烦了，这机子主要还是手感。

而且我记得USB的手柄说是能兼容。。但这又有违便携的初衷。
作者: gl434 时间: 2013-6-7 15:44

软件问题是肯定会有的这点不解决就没啥玩点
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-6-7 16:22

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原帖由 强棒奶娃 于 2013-6-7 14:49 发表
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The d-pad in particular is difficult to work fluidly, and on occasion gets stuck in the down position. You can already see the rub points on the plastic, so my guess i ...
玩不玩的松还是具体要看实际用的什么硬件了，不是什么D-PAD都能玩“松”的，如果本身使用的材料和设计有问题的话，玩坏了也不会变松，也是有可能的吧。

USB手柄能兼容也未必是跟便携或者说掌机这一定位是完全的冲突，就如电视输出功能一样，对于掌机来说不是必须，而是一个附加值，有人喜欢，有人不需要。正如CAANOO和WIZ都有一定的USB HOST功能，也能接上USB手柄玩，而且还可以通过某些支持的USB WIFI DONGLE来实现机器本身没带的WIFI通讯功能，这点也是有不少人喜欢的。

这些点上只要设计和制造那里不要本末倒置就好了。

[ 本帖最后由 difuno 于 2013-6-7 16:26 编辑 ]
作者: maidofhonor 时间: 2013-12-14 03:38

根据圣诞老人密报，偶将在圣诞节迎来GCW ZERO，

好激动呀。

完美移动MAME模拟，SNES模拟偶来啦。

有哪位入了的大侠请说说评测。
作者: difuno 时间: 2013-12-14 15:22

国内好象没见卖，国外代购麻烦
作者: jzwtxp 时间: 2013-12-14 22:00

MIPS 构架的U，就别寻思能鼓捣出啥来。

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