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UN 不管这个吧，这种事不是都找世贸的吗？

某种论点：我作为消费者不会分辨正版还是盗版，我只知道同样游戏“散装”的便宜。
说白了还是ZF不想管

原来联合国还管这个~

说最简单的
全买Z的话，我们的收入才多少？
人家老外一个月3-5K的收入（美元）
买个游戏50-60~~~（美元）
让我和他们平等我也买Z的了
现在一个月买一张Z的已经很了不起了，还想怎么样？

应该是WTO，这篇文章消息有误～～

明明是故意的，呵呵。
再说，告状能有用？联合国就是一八国联军，告状的目的不是赔偿，无非是造点声势罢了。

异形兄弟，欧洲70欧的游戏对欧洲人也是很贵的！老外工资高，消费也高，这点您在上海应该很清楚的。

[ 本帖最后由 handsomeken 于 2007-4-9 13:03 编辑 ]

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原帖由 ujmko 于 2007-4-9 10:52 发表

我很好奇，这个就算胜诉了，那该由谁来执行

执行并不是什么大问题。美国自己来就行了。世界工厂也需要订单的。对美国来说，南亚，非洲和中国的远近距离差异不大。只是，美国自己要算清这笔帐才好。

原来我买的5元一张的xp是盗版啊，我都不知道啊？！一直用得好好的啊，连微软的正版验证都通过了啊？

这个不会成为正式起诉的.

U.S. Plans WTO Case Against China on Movies, Books (Update7)

By Mark Drajem and Li Yanping

April 6 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. may file a complaint at the World Trade Organization as early as next week over what it calls China's piracy of copyrighted movies and books, according to four people briefed by the Bush administration.

Officials have prepared two cases, one saying China sets too high a value on pirated movie or music disks before prosecuting violators, and another objecting to restrictions on the sale of foreign books and movies in the nation, they said. The people, three industry officials and one lawyer, spoke on condition they not be identified.

China's illegal copying of movies, music and software cost companies $2.2 billion in 2006 sales, according to an estimate by lobby groups representing Microsoft Corp., Walt Disney Co., and Vivendi SA. The WTO complaints are the first by the U.S. against China for breaching intellectual property rights, in a country where copying has extended to bags, golf clubs and even shampoo.

``The U.S. believes that now it's time to put more pressure'' on China, five years after the country became a WTO member, said Standard Chartered Plc's economist Stephen Green in Shanghai. ``The U.S. believes that China has clearly infringed rules that it agreed to play by,'' prompting the action, he said.

China's 2006 trade surplus against the U.S. widened to a record $232.5 billion, prompting U.S. lawmakers including Michigan Democrat Sander Levin and Pennsylvania Republican Phil English to blame the gap on the yuan's value and China's piracy of copyrighted and patented goods.

`Competitive Advantage'

In a letter to President George W. Bush in October, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other lawmakers said that ``no country in the world has done more to undermine American intellectual property than China.''

Bush administration officials and industry lobbyists were still debating the specifics of the U.S. complaints case late yesterday. The administration may still adjust or delay the complaints to account for new announcements from China. Twice in the past year, the U.S. was poised to file a complaint only to delay at the last moment.

Wang Xinpei, a spokesman for China's commerce ministry in Beijing, couldn't be reached to comment on the U.S. plan to file the WTO complaint. Sean Spicer, a spokesman for the U.S. Trade Representative's office in Washington D.C., declined to comment.

U.S. complaints were imminent, Trade Representative Susan Schwab said on Feb. 22.

`Run Out of Patience'

``We're all going to run out of patience at some point, and that's going to be sooner rather than later,'' she said.

Last week, the Bush administration decided to levy duties on imports of coated paper from China to compensate for Chinese subsidies to exporters.

Under WTO procedures, the U.S. will formally ask for consultations with China when it files its complaints. Only after 60 days can the U.S. ask for an independent panel to adjudicate the dispute.

``China has continued to demonstrate little success in actually enforcing its laws and regulations in the face of the challenges created by widespread counterfeiting, piracy and other forms of infringement,'' the U.S. trade office said in a report this week. ``One major factor is China's chronic underutilization of deterrent criminal remedies.''

The U.S. plan may not escalate into a formal complaint, said Li Yushi, deputy director of the Chinese commerce ministry's research institute.

Limitations

``This is just another turn of focus by the U.S. government in dealing with its widening trade deficit with China,'' Li said today in Beijing. ``The administration understands that China has made efforts in IPR protection, as well as our limitations in enforcing the effort.''

Pirated DVDs including Time Warner Inc.'s Academy Award- winning movie ``The Departed'' still sell for less than $1 on the streets of Chinese cities including Beijing and Shanghai.

``It's all about the economics of movies,'' said Liu Ping, who sells pirated DVDs including ``The Departed'' and Warner's ``300'' for as little as 5 yuan (65 U.S. cents) at the Wangfujing subway station in Beijing. ``No one wants to pay 60 yuan for a movie when they can watch a DVD for 5 yuan.''

A reason for piracy could be the limits placed on U.S. publishers and movie companies. Overseas publishers are only allowed to sell non-Chinese books, magazines and newspapers through five-star hotels while movie studios can only show a limited number of overseas films every year in China.

`Powerful Tool'

``IPR is critical to the U.S. because it is a tool by which it can control technology and industries around the world,'' said Guan Anping, managing partner of Beijing-based corporate law firm Anping & Partners. ``It's a powerful tool to control nations like China, which are dependent on low-cost manufacturing.''

``I hope the WTO would be objective in reviewing this case,'' Guan said.

China this week announced a crackdown on hawkers of counterfeit goods and halved the criminal thresholds for prosecuting pirates. Possession of 500 pirated DVDs, rather than 1,000, would lead to criminal prosecution, the Supreme People's Court said yesterday, according to a notice issued by the Chinese Embassy in Washington.

People who make more than 2,500 illegal copies of music, movies or software can be jailed for up to seven years under the new rules, the notice said.

``When Chinese film stars see their movies sold for 7 yuan on DVD, they'll appreciate'' the importance of intellectual property rights, said Jing Ulrich, Chairman of China Equities at JPMorgan, at a media forum today in Beijing. ``Chinese companies will be keen to protect intellectual property when they create some of the leading technology themselves.''

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原帖由 md2 于 2007-4-9 01:46 发表


100年前1美元等于现在100美元

几乎所有货币价值都是现在的100倍


当然，日元是10000倍

这个问题太复杂了我不知道你是怎么算出来的

这种事情跟2001年刚加入WTO时16个国家政府因为盗版问题联合给中国政府施压的性质是一样的，起不到什么作用！何况现在美国国内的盗版率也有58%，和中国不同的是他们的载体不是“盘”，五十步笑百步！

碰到73楼当然是无话可说了

:D 22亿美元么。。。摊到全国D版使用者头上，人均才多少。。。即使赔了，还是比Z版划算很多涅。。。