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联动贴:微软早为Zephyr推出埋下伏笔

大门有钱
所以玩得起
ps3可能也会出ps3II


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LS不可以把型号记下去TCL官网对照一下吗?

还有,觉得微软这一次把索尼耍得好惨,1080P,HDMI,这些个概念性的玩意,多少也拖延了索尼加入战局的时间,顺便乱了他们阵脚,而微软明修栈道,暗渡陈仓,赢得了可贵的商机,后来也“顺利”支持了这些个东西,这回索尼痛苦了……很有间谍战的感觉,有意思。



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原帖由 Xeneo 于 2007-1-6 22:00 发表
LS不可以把型号记下去TCL官网对照一下吗?

还有,觉得微软这一次把索尼耍得好惨,1080P,HDMI,这些个概念性的玩意,多少也拖延了索尼加入战局的时间,顺便乱了他们阵脚,而微软明修栈道,暗渡陈仓,赢得了可 ...
你觉得一个厂子的产品被迫加入竞争对手宣传的功能是谁被耍了,
无下限阿无下限


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原帖由 Xeneo 于 2007-1-6 22:00 发表
LS不可以把型号记下去TCL官网对照一下吗?

还有,觉得微软这一次把索尼耍得好惨,1080P,HDMI,这些个概念性的玩意,多少也拖延了索尼加入战局的时间,顺便乱了他们阵脚,而微软明修栈道,暗渡陈仓,赢得了可 ...
那电视不是我买的,说明书也搞丢了,电视上也没写型号,总之这下SBL

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bullocks兄,不妨看看本地是否有TCL客服,然后请来看看什么的,应该可以的,TCL好歹也是大厂,售后应该可以的。

还有,doomking兄,这个你这样理解也对。不过从抢占先机的角度来看,索尼逊了一筹。倒不是说微软此次必胜,但是,索尼在HDMI这种问题是上纠缠太久了。

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啥叫被迫加入,360出的时候hdmi成熟吗?
ps3第一次延期的理由之一不就是等hdmi1.3么?
hdmi里也有微软的参与,和赔本赚吆喝的ps3比,360现在真是想加什么加什么

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原帖由 tdkgtm 于 2007-1-6 22:16 发表
啥叫被迫加入,360出的时候hdmi成熟吗?
ps3第一次延期的理由之一不就是等hdmi1.3么?
hdmi里也有微软的参与,和赔本赚吆喝的ps3比,360现在真是想加什么加什么
改天V3把wii remote也加上,也不影响你们玩原来游戏,
360出的时候国产早标配HDMI了,
延期理由这种幌子也只能忽悠忽悠软饭和MS

XO V3 加入XO remote
XO V4 加入HDDVD
XO V5 手柄带锂电池,内置无线网卡


[ 本帖最后由 doomking 于 2007-1-6 22:20 编辑 ]

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原帖由 doomking 于 2007-1-6 22:19 发表

改天V3把wii remote也加上,也不影响你们玩原来游戏,
360出的时候国产早标配HDMI了,
延期理由这种幌子也只能忽悠忽悠软饭和MS

XO V3 加入XO remote
XO V4 加入HDDVD
XO V5 手柄带锂电池,内置无 ...
请你自己在查查看,hdmi1.2是什么时候出的,不要说1.3了
至于v3 v4 v5,你自己慢慢享受,不打搅了

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原帖由 tdkgtm 于 2007-1-6 22:23 发表

请你自己在查查看,hdmi1.2是什么时候出的,不要说1.3了
至于v3 v4 v5,你自己慢慢享受,不打搅了
hdmi1.1就支持1080P,后面的只是音频和色深的改进

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我是来看索饭热闹的,LS以及LX各位继续

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doomking可能是TG上唯一活跃的索青了,大家一定要手下留情啊,不要下手太重把人赶跑了

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引用一下我很久以前发过的很久以前的一个采访:

前年E3时TeamXBox对Todd Holmdahl的一篇采访,现在看来,当时这些事情都被预见到了:

其一:关于HDMI
Q:All those connections (composite, component, s-video and VGA) have one thing in common: they carry the video signal in an analog format. What about digital connections such DVI or HDMI? Will there be A/V packs with DVI and/or HDMI connections? If not, will you consider offering that in the future?

Todd Holmdahl: Xbox 360 will support HD component video output, which is compatible with nearly every HD-ready TV on the market today. We’re poised to hit the sweet spot of the HD market at launch and as the market matures, and we will provide an HDMI for our customers when it makes sense. The reality is, you don’t need HDMI for HD gaming.

其二:关于1080P
Q:I understand the choice of 720p over 1080i because of the fast-motion action sequences involved in gaming; a progressive scan picture is better than an interlaced one for this case, but lately we have seen more and more 1080p capable displays, especially DLP-based flat screens (although 1080p doesn’t belong to ATSC’s specifications for HDTV). The question is, will the Xbox 360 be able to offer a 1080p signal? Is the Xbox 360 GPU powerful enough to render games up to that resolution at playable framerates?

Todd Holmdahl: Xbox 360 offers choice for both the game developer and the end consumer. The game developer can create their game in any resolution. The consumer can request any output resolution (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i). The Xbox 360’s advanced video scaler will scale the game’s native resolution to the end consumer’s requested resolution with extremely high quality output. Bottom line, the games will look amazing.

Xbox 360 does not support 1080p at this time. It’s an incremental improvement at an astronomical expense, and we don’t see consumers clamoring for 1080p TVs yet. We will continue evaluate the market and deliver the capability when and if customers want it.

As for the GPU, the Xbox 360 has the most powerful GPU of any gaming console; even better, we made specific design choices to enable game developers to render real-time complex scenes at high resolutions with high-quality anti-aliasing. Without our Embedded DRAM on the GPU and the huge 256Gbyes/second dedicated bus from the GPU core to the EDRAM, it is impossible to render true next-generation scene complexity at high-resolution with anti-aliasing.

可见当时Xbox小组的计划就是在"customers want it"的时候推出1080p支持,并在'it makes sense"的时候推出HDMI。

原文见:http://interviews.teamxbox.com/x ... w-Todd-Holmdahl/p1/

[ 本帖最后由 xphi 于 2007-1-7 18:00 编辑 ]

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原帖由 gaokun 于 2007-1-7 17:00 发表
doomking可能是TG上唯一活跃的索青了,大家一定要手下留情啊,不要下手太重把人赶跑了
最近眼神不好的人真多.别忘了我,我也是索饭.虽然不是很出名.

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这个采访时05年6月份作的,从里面还可以看出一些东西来,比如这几天被猛炒得所谓秘密武器"ANA",其实根本就是一个普通的拉伸芯片,看这个采访里的原文:“The game developer can create their game in any resolution. The consumer can request any output resolution (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i). The Xbox 360’s advanced video scaler will scale the game’s native resolution to the end consumer’s requested resolution with extremely high quality output”,这里的Xbox 360’s advanced video scaler就是指的ANA做的这个事情,一开始就是用这个高质量的拉申任何分辨率的图像到720p,后来微软开放了拉伸到1080p的功能而已,根本不是什么秘密武器。

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